Editing Talk:2174: First News Memory

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AAAAA, black hat is an alien confirmed in XKCD cinematic universe canon!!!1! [[User:Fabian42|Fabian42]] ([[User talk:Fabian42|talk]]) 23:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Should it be linked to [[:category:Comics to make one feel old|Comics to make one feel old]]? it is kind of a similar theme. especially [[1686: Feel Old]]. Also (not of the feel old series): [[1093: Forget]]. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 05:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

== First News Memory ==

The challenger disaster was my first news memory too. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.124|108.162.241.124]] 19:37, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
: The Challenger disaster was for me, too -- except I distinctly remember it being during my 8th grade year (two years after it had occurred). Earlier still would be Mt. St. Helens' blowing it's top (well, side) -- except it wasn't a news event, it was a life event (we lived in Idaho at the time, and had a lot of the first ash that came down...) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.75.52|162.158.75.52]] 05:58, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:: Wait... is the Challenger disaster my first news memory if I watched it happen live? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.241.124|108.162.241.124]] 12:26, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders not being admitted into debates was mine... 
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 19:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:The debate was with Moses -- Bernie is ''old''. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 19:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
::And yet distinctly more lucid than Biden & more active than Trump. Bernie's age doesn't concern me much. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 20:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure I must have watched the moon landing, but I don't actually remember it (I was 8 at the time). I remember Nixon being elected, but I'm not sure if it was 1968 or 1972.[[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]])

I was five and was allowed to stay up very late - i think I remember being allowed to stay up more than the moon landing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.67|162.158.154.67]] 22:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I vaguely remember the last moon landing (family didn’t have TV for the first three) but I very clearly remember the first picture of Mars sent back by the Viking lander.  They actually interrupted the regular programming to show it live.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.234.132|172.69.234.132]] 04:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

If it's supposed it's first news memory you remember clearly, mine would be the {{w|September 11 attacks}} ... however, i'm sure it was nowhere near first news I was watching. It's just that the ones before were either hard to date (like some road accidents) or not visual enough (talking heads), so I don't remember if I watched that one in TV or read it in newspaper. Also, I suspect it was first news I saw outside of regular news show: they interrupted what was supposed to be in TV at that time, so I though it's some catastrophic movie first. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 10:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

For me it was the German election results 1998, where Schröder became the new Kanzler. 3 Years later, 9/11 is much clearer on my mind however --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 11:11, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

It's very hazy, I don't have many memories from when I was young but I recall McCain being defeated. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.234.136|172.69.234.136]] 12:28, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

What comes to my mind was the Great Alaska Earthquake which I read about in the "Weekly Reader" distributed in elementary school. My memory is that I was about 8 years old, but in fact the Alaska earthquake was in March 1964 and I was 10 years old. Which makes the Kennedy assassination in November 1963 my first strong news memory. So this demonstrates the malleability of (at least my) memory. [[User:Rtanenbaum|Rtanenbaum]] ([[User talk:Rtanenbaum|talk]]) 13:22, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

My first news memory was watching the Apollo–Soyuz link-up from the Apollo side.  NASA televised the opening of the hatch on the Apollo and shaking hands with the Soviet cosmonaut and I remember my mom explaining that that was happening up in space way above us. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 13:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Mine was the 1976 election of Carter over Ford.  Mom was Democrat and her stepfather was Republican.  His derision of Carter was...exuberant. [[User:Observer of the Absurd|Observer of the Absurd]] ([[User talk:Observer of the Absurd|talk]]) 16:20, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

You all make me feel very young... My first news memory was 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, but it's very vague... [[Special:Contributions/172.68.51.166|172.68.51.166]] 09:28, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

For me, it was some news story about Tony Blair. No idea what the story was, and I know I've seen the news before that, but that's the first I can remember.
It would have been the Fairford MIG 21 crash (mid air collision) in 1993.  But I was camping there and had no access to a TV.  I did however get to see fresh wreckage, both on the runway, and in the (otherwise empty) field next to the one I was staying in...  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.115|162.158.154.115]] 10:05, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== Explain the comic == 

(Flashblub memories \ Mandela effect)
I think we need an explanation of Flashbulb memories, for sure. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 20:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

== Details hazy ==

"Challenger crashed into and destroyed the Berlin Wall" ... 'That's right, isn't it?' - ''Dexter Walker'' (played by Daryl Mitchell) on ''The John Laroquette Show'' 
[[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 20:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

== Links to character pages ==

This comic especially felt like it needed links to character pages, so I added them. If we have a policy not to do that, please feel free to unlink. [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] ([[User talk:Jkshapiro|talk]]) 02:10, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

== Deny/refute ==
In comment on title text, I changed refutes to denies. Refute means to actually prove something is untrue, not the same as just denying it is true. One deals with proven fact, the other is unsupported opinion.

== Amnesia (frame three) ==

Has White Hat ever evidenced amnesia before? It just feels like such an unlikely explanation for his comment. Amnesia is a rare and notable thing, and there's something disproportionate about using it as a throwaway line in an otherwise unrelated strip. [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] ([[User talk:Jkshapiro|talk]]) 02:45, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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 For me, it was some news story about Tony Blair. No idea what the story was, and I know I've seen the news before that, but that's the first I can remember.
 It would have been the Fairford MIG 21 crash (mid air collision) in 1993.  But I was camping there and had no access to a TV.  I did however get to see fresh wreckage, both on the runway, and in the (otherwise empty) field next to the one I was staying in...  [[Special:Contributions/162.158.154.115|162.158.154.115]] 10:05, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
-I'm so old that I already forgot everything, but I still remember the daily news on the 'Nam. Being about 14 and a German, I shouldn't have cared less, but I definitely rooted for the Commies. :P [[Special:Contributions/141.101.104.201|141.101.104.201]] 13:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
-Another old guy who remembers the JFK assassination. I remember the school principal announced it over the PA. I was 8 years old. We watched the entire funeral procession on TV at home. Of course with something that has been talked about for so long it's hard to forget.
-[[User:OldTimer|OldTimer]] ([[User talk:OldTimer|talk]]) 17:35, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
-Margaret Thatcher, MP, gaining leadership of the Conservative Party. Can't remember when I later learnt she became Prime Minister, though. There's a gap. (*Insert joke about current leadership contest, here...*) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.158.165|162.158.158.165]] 13:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
-For me it propably was the death of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Barschel Uwe Barschel]]. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.52|162.158.114.52]] 07:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
-Weirdly, my first dateable ''news'' memory is indeed '''the lunar landing''' when I was 22 month old, which occurred on my father's birthday. His main birthday gift, from my grandparents, was our first TV. The first thing we watched on it was the lunar landing. I have earlier memories I can safely date to when I was around 14 months old. Not counting nightmares I've had since I was a toddler that may be the birth experience. But that one's a bit of a stretch.  — [[User:Kazvorpal|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
-: Oh, and it's worth note that famed actress [[wikipedia:Marilu Henner|Marilu Henner]] '''lost her virginity''' on the day of the moon landing. I know this because I watched her on a talk show, I think Late Night with Bob Costas in the late 1980s, and he was rattling off dates to test her eidetic memory. He gave July 20th, 1969, and she was flustered. She eventually said that's when she lost her virginity. He was amazed, and said he was going for the lunar landing. She was quite bemused. Oh, she eventually added that she lost it standing up in the shower. — [[User:Kazvorpal|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
-Mine is the Wall coming down, and I know it´s original because I remember telling my schoolmates (5th grade) next morning while changing for gymnastics, and they were thoroughly unimpressed. ;) --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.178|162.158.94.178]] 20:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 == Explain the comic ==
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 == Deny/refute ==
 In comment on title text, I changed refutes to denies. Refute means to actually prove something is untrue, not the same as just denying it is true. One deals with proven fact, the other is unsupported opinion.
-:This is a definition, but it can also mean: "deny or contradict (a statement or accusation)", from the Latin refutare, to repel or rebut. [[User:OhFFS|OhFFS]] ([[User talk:OhFFS|talk]]) 15:29, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 == Amnesia (frame three) ==
 Has White Hat ever evidenced amnesia before? It just feels like such an unlikely explanation for his comment. Amnesia is a rare and notable thing, and there's something disproportionate about using it as a throwaway line in an otherwise unrelated strip. [[User:Jkshapiro|Jkshapiro]] ([[User talk:Jkshapiro|talk]]) 02:45, 12 July 2019 (UTC)