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Can we add this one to a new category, "Comics that Randall makes just to screw with xkcd wiki contributors"? I can think of plenty of candidates for this category! [[User:Cosmogoblin|Cosmogoblin]] ([[User talk:Cosmogoblin|talk]]) 21:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | Can we add this one to a new category, "Comics that Randall makes just to screw with xkcd wiki contributors"? I can think of plenty of candidates for this category! [[User:Cosmogoblin|Cosmogoblin]] ([[User talk:Cosmogoblin|talk]]) 21:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
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The claim that a coax has only one conductive part is incorrect. It has two. The pin is the inner conductor. The shield is the outer conductor. Without both it wouldn't work. | The claim that a coax has only one conductive part is incorrect. It has two. The pin is the inner conductor. The shield is the outer conductor. Without both it wouldn't work. | ||
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I'd also say that the claim at the top that a pin can have only one bit or one voltage of power at a time is incorrect. Power over Ethernet is a perfect example of power and data at the same time. There are also plenty of types of signals which transmit multiple bits at once. A simple example would be a signal using four voltage levels to transmit two bits simultaneously, but there are many more fancy analog encodings that use phase and frequency and other characteristics to transmit data. Plus, you can often included two signals on the same conductors. For example, ADSL combined a normal phone signal and a higher frequency data signal on the same lines. Also cable TV combined many signals on one set of conductors. | I'd also say that the claim at the top that a pin can have only one bit or one voltage of power at a time is incorrect. Power over Ethernet is a perfect example of power and data at the same time. There are also plenty of types of signals which transmit multiple bits at once. A simple example would be a signal using four voltage levels to transmit two bits simultaneously, but there are many more fancy analog encodings that use phase and frequency and other characteristics to transmit data. Plus, you can often included two signals on the same conductors. For example, ADSL combined a normal phone signal and a higher frequency data signal on the same lines. Also cable TV combined many signals on one set of conductors. | ||
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So, anyway, I'd remove the claim. | So, anyway, I'd remove the claim. | ||
[[User:Mootstrap|Mootstrap]] ([[User talk:Mootstrap|talk]]) 23:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | [[User:Mootstrap|Mootstrap]] ([[User talk:Mootstrap|talk]]) 23:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
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I think "Pin Roulette" is a pun on [[wikipedia:Penn Jillette|Penn Jillette]], the talkative half of the [[wikipedia:Penn & Teller|Penn & Teller]] magic act, and maybe also a reference to [[wikipedia:chatroulette|chatroulette]]. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | I think "Pin Roulette" is a pun on [[wikipedia:Penn Jillette|Penn Jillette]], the talkative half of the [[wikipedia:Penn & Teller|Penn & Teller]] magic act, and maybe also a reference to [[wikipedia:chatroulette|chatroulette]]. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
:Possible, but I'd stick with the simple explanation - that the "Pin Roulette" pin selects a random function when the connector's plugged in. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.64|108.162.245.64]] 23:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | :Possible, but I'd stick with the simple explanation - that the "Pin Roulette" pin selects a random function when the connector's plugged in. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.64|108.162.245.64]] 23:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
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In addition to pins being able to carry both data and power, or to carry multiple bits at a time, some pins function as clock signal pins that indicate bit boundaries rather than themselves carrying data; therefore I also think the claim should be either omitted or changed entirely. | In addition to pins being able to carry both data and power, or to carry multiple bits at a time, some pins function as clock signal pins that indicate bit boundaries rather than themselves carrying data; therefore I also think the claim should be either omitted or changed entirely. | ||
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Firstly, no [[1293|Soup]]? Secondly, [https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/GNDN GNDN] might easily have been referenced. Thirdly, would a pin made of solder melt, as pins connected to wires/boards ''by'' solder do not melt the solder (under proper range of use). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.158|141.101.107.158]] 23:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | Firstly, no [[1293|Soup]]? Secondly, [https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/GNDN GNDN] might easily have been referenced. Thirdly, would a pin made of solder melt, as pins connected to wires/boards ''by'' solder do not melt the solder (under proper range of use). [[Special:Contributions/141.101.107.158|141.101.107.158]] 23:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
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