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:-- Does this need to be a reference to something? I feel like 60% of the "references" we find are just things Randal or society in general would say/think. These things are probably circulated by the bloodstream, so requesting it be directly injected into the veins could be considered as a request to skip the "extra "steps (absorbing into bloodstream), or a possibly common misconception of how this vaccine works. Definitely not a reference to Simpsons... there isn't even a slight relation other than the fact they both use words. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.218|108.162.237.218]]
 
:-- Does this need to be a reference to something? I feel like 60% of the "references" we find are just things Randal or society in general would say/think. These things are probably circulated by the bloodstream, so requesting it be directly injected into the veins could be considered as a request to skip the "extra "steps (absorbing into bloodstream), or a possibly common misconception of how this vaccine works. Definitely not a reference to Simpsons... there isn't even a slight relation other than the fact they both use words. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.218|108.162.237.218]]
 
:I believe Randall definitely intended it as a reference to the "into my veins" meme, which is a very commonly used one, having spread far beyond viewers of early Simpsons alone. (And yes, Gumble ''is'' an addict who essentially requested 'mainlining' his drug of choice. The fact that it's alcohol doesn't make it any less a drug addiction, & while beer would no doubt cause horrific tissue damage thru intravenous injection, Gumble isn't the first 'person' to suggest an alcohol IV.) I see little reason to doubt that Cueball is riffing on both memes. Randall even went straight from one Groening show reference to another, with the Pkilip J. Fry quote. With the alt-text being a ''direct'' quotation, I believe the former reference is therefore strongly implied, if not obvious prima facie. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 22:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 
:I believe Randall definitely intended it as a reference to the "into my veins" meme, which is a very commonly used one, having spread far beyond viewers of early Simpsons alone. (And yes, Gumble ''is'' an addict who essentially requested 'mainlining' his drug of choice. The fact that it's alcohol doesn't make it any less a drug addiction, & while beer would no doubt cause horrific tissue damage thru intravenous injection, Gumble isn't the first 'person' to suggest an alcohol IV.) I see little reason to doubt that Cueball is riffing on both memes. Randall even went straight from one Groening show reference to another, with the Pkilip J. Fry quote. With the alt-text being a ''direct'' quotation, I believe the former reference is therefore strongly implied, if not obvious prima facie. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 22:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Not sure whether you meant the vaccine, but the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not mean to circulate in the bloodstream. They cause cells in the region of the injection to express the antigenic protein (a duplicate of the viral spike protein). That protein is in turn detected by various immune cells, e. g. dendritic cells, and presented to the lymph nodes, which then causes B- and T-cells to proliferate which are sensitive to the specific antigen. The T-cells do circulate in the blood, finally. [[User:Nitpicking|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking|talk]]) 03:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
  
 
I imagine this is poking fun at how excited everyone is about a vaccine, despite vaccines normally being pretty boring. It signals the end of a terrible pandemic, but you will just be getting a shot.  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.214|108.162.245.214]] 00:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 
I imagine this is poking fun at how excited everyone is about a vaccine, despite vaccines normally being pretty boring. It signals the end of a terrible pandemic, but you will just be getting a shot.  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.214|108.162.245.214]] 00:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not sure if Barney Gumble is the intended reference. It reminds me more of a drug addict. Barmar (talk) 00:36, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

-- Does this need to be a reference to something? I feel like 60% of the "references" we find are just things Randal or society in general would say/think. These things are probably circulated by the bloodstream, so requesting it be directly injected into the veins could be considered as a request to skip the "extra "steps (absorbing into bloodstream), or a possibly common misconception of how this vaccine works. Definitely not a reference to Simpsons... there isn't even a slight relation other than the fact they both use words. 108.162.237.218
I believe Randall definitely intended it as a reference to the "into my veins" meme, which is a very commonly used one, having spread far beyond viewers of early Simpsons alone. (And yes, Gumble is an addict who essentially requested 'mainlining' his drug of choice. The fact that it's alcohol doesn't make it any less a drug addiction, & while beer would no doubt cause horrific tissue damage thru intravenous injection, Gumble isn't the first 'person' to suggest an alcohol IV.) I see little reason to doubt that Cueball is riffing on both memes. Randall even went straight from one Groening show reference to another, with the Pkilip J. Fry quote. With the alt-text being a direct quotation, I believe the former reference is therefore strongly implied, if not obvious prima facie. ProphetZarquon (talk) 22:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Not sure whether you meant the vaccine, but the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not mean to circulate in the bloodstream. They cause cells in the region of the injection to express the antigenic protein (a duplicate of the viral spike protein). That protein is in turn detected by various immune cells, e. g. dendritic cells, and presented to the lymph nodes, which then causes B- and T-cells to proliferate which are sensitive to the specific antigen. The T-cells do circulate in the blood, finally. Nitpicking (talk) 03:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I imagine this is poking fun at how excited everyone is about a vaccine, despite vaccines normally being pretty boring. It signals the end of a terrible pandemic, but you will just be getting a shot. 108.162.245.214 00:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Especially since most people probably won't get it soon, we are unlikely to reach 75% vaccination at all, & even if we did, it doesn't address the wider issue of transit-amplified transmissible disease exposure in a transit-dependent society, in which overall immune health is declining due to multiple compounding factors that are non-trivial to address. A vaccine for CoViD '19 is surely called for, but it won't solve the underlying issues that created this pandemic. ProphetZarquon (talk) 22:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I have to say, the "COVID19 may have inconvenienced some people [citation needed]" is cracking me up. 188.114.103.205 09:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm beginning to think Randall has a terminal CASE of meme infection. It's even affecting his Regular Expressions! ProphetZarquon (talk) 22:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)