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Clearly this is going to end with a final of Cutaneous Rabbit - Woozle. Which combines to give you a self-reinforcing erroneous belief that someone is tapping your arm. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.209|172.69.79.209]] 08:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
Clearly this is going to end with a final of Cutaneous Rabbit - Woozle. Which combines to give you a self-reinforcing erroneous belief that someone is tapping your arm. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.209|172.69.79.209]] 08:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
:I could see there being an actual Perky/Cutaneous Rabbit draw (in both senses of the word, though I haven't checked to see if either have lost out yet on the official poll), whichbis when you are convinced that you are in fact only imagining the tapping moving up your arm, ''but it actually is!!!'' [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
:I could see there being an actual Perky/Cutaneous Rabbit draw (in both senses of the word, though I haven't checked to see if either have lost out yet on the official poll), whichbis when you are convinced that you are in fact only imagining the tapping moving up your arm, ''but it actually is!!!'' [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.5|172.70.162.5]] 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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Wow, the last [[xkcd]]. --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 21:36, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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: What do you mean? -- [[User:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]  ([[User talk:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]) 21:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:: It's the last [[xkcd]]. --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 21:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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::: How do you know this? Your account was created very recently (today, at 21:34 UTC), so it's kind of hard to believe you. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.134.125|162.158.134.125]] 21:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::: Because it's the last [[xkcd]]. --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 21:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::: not to stretch this out but i think what they mean is that it is the last ''currently existing'' XKCD comic at the time of writing [[User:Vaedez|Vaedez]] ([[User talk:Vaedez|talk]]) 00:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::::: No, it's just stupid vandalism. Changes to another page suggested the ''last ever'' comic, for insufficiently specified reasons. '''I'd suggest deleting this whole tree of Talk comments, as the user concerned is getting the attention that they are clearly seeking''', but it's probably even worse etiquette (or mistakable for vandalism!) for me to do so. Perhaps add in a Collapsable-type markup to this bit, letting less meta conversation about the explanation/comic occur, if anybody has any such things to say? [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 01:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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::::: [[User:X K C D|X K C D]] keeps spamming, does anyone know how to semi-protect or block? Sorry, I'm kind of a noob. -- [[User:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]  ([[User talk:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]) 21:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::::: Why are my trousers combusting? --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 22:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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::::::: He also updated the [[xkcd]] page; no point in edit warring until an admin blocks [[User:Alchemistmatt|Alchemistmatt]] ([[User talk:Alchemistmatt|talk]]) 22:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::::::: Thanks for the tip. Should I still delete the header whenever I edit, or just leave it alone? -- [[User:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]  ([[User talk:WriterArtistCoder|WriterArtistCoder]]) 22:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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::::::::: I'll stop until we find a source. Why are my trousers combusting? Will they stop now that I'm not edit warring? --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 22:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::: They're still combusting. --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 22:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::: Nothing's changed; my trousers are still combusting. --[[User:X K C D|X K C D]] ([[User talk:X K C D|talk]]) 22:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::::: [[wikipedia:Pants on Fire|Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!]] --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.155|172.70.162.155]] 00:35, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
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So... Who's setting up an actual bracket for this? Should we each create our own brackets?{{unsigned ip}}
 
So... Who's setting up an actual bracket for this? Should we each create our own brackets?{{unsigned ip}}
 
:Randall's running one (see Twitter link near top), though I forget when the first-round polls are said to be closing (did it say 10 hours, when I checked for myself?) and as I'm not registered on a Twitter it's just a spectator sport for me and I'll probably rely on some other editor bringing the results over to ExplainXKCD when they are made known and putting them in the section now prepared on the Explanation page. Nothing to stop you making your own predictions/desires known ahead of the actual results, but it'd be purely a personal thing until enough people locally state their thoughts this to establish a (possibly different) ExpXKCD consensus result by manual collation of a completely scientifically-unregorous alternate poll. (Sounds like too much work for little added benefit, but maybe someone wants to do it anyway...) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.211|172.70.90.211]] 16:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
:Randall's running one (see Twitter link near top), though I forget when the first-round polls are said to be closing (did it say 10 hours, when I checked for myself?) and as I'm not registered on a Twitter it's just a spectator sport for me and I'll probably rely on some other editor bringing the results over to ExplainXKCD when they are made known and putting them in the section now prepared on the Explanation page. Nothing to stop you making your own predictions/desires known ahead of the actual results, but it'd be purely a personal thing until enough people locally state their thoughts this to establish a (possibly different) ExpXKCD consensus result by manual collation of a completely scientifically-unregorous alternate poll. (Sounds like too much work for little added benefit, but maybe someone wants to do it anyway...) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.211|172.70.90.211]] 16:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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Can I suggest that anyone who replaces the hyphen/minus-sign in "foo - bar" (or, usually, "foo - breakout - bar" as some sort of bracketting side-comment) don't replace " - " with "–” or "—” without the spaces, as it makes it look even more like the unintended hyphenisation that they probably think they're avoiding. At least preserve the spacing. That said, there generally is another way.
If commas would be too confusing (e.g. proximity to a list (and especially Oxford Commas, which confuse things more!)) then parenthesising would be best. If you're too scared to nest brackets (and ellipses/etc don't seem viable …perhaps leave to the Discussion page?) then probably you just need to rewrite into several more atomic sentences rather than one huge run-on one that needs so many different pause/sotto-voce-effect in the internalised narration. As you can see, I run into this problem often enough. In this comment I've slightly broken a couple of my own rules (by omission) just because it makes a better exemplar to not rewrite to avoid.
However this is just general advice to the other mdash/ndash 'correctors' who pop up. In this article it was the transcript where "Effect A - Effect B" became "Effect A–Effect B", looking like "A-Effect" (or, actually "Effect-B", to reflect the true ordering seen). Obviously it represents the line between, but no hyphen or dash is there to be read, and it would have been as valid to use " / " as separator, except for the use (unspaced) in "Bouba/kiki". It would be nice to know what screen-readers think of every option β€” how they voice them, etc…
Perhaps a " [is bracketed with] " transcript-label would be best (with the spaces, naturally). But I leave it up to someone else to think about. I'm still a bit overinvolved with the 'hyphen-like dashes' issue, as you can see, which often makes me a bit sharp and terse. For which I apologise, as with this whole 'getting off of my chest' commentary that I've a feeling I have either under-explained or over-explained. Or, simultaneously, both! 172.70.90.145 08:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Maybe 172.69.79.209 08:54, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
It was I who changed to dashes. Both dash length and spacing was, to the best of my ability, those that Wikipedia described for sport games and other β€œsymmetrical” pairs. If it turned out unsuitable for this page, I think that another layout entirely would be preferable to the current solution. But for sure I won’t fight for it.
While False (talk) 09:03, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Clearly this is going to end with a final of Cutaneous Rabbit - Woozle. Which combines to give you a self-reinforcing erroneous belief that someone is tapping your arm. 172.69.79.209 08:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I could see there being an actual Perky/Cutaneous Rabbit draw (in both senses of the word, though I haven't checked to see if either have lost out yet on the official poll), whichbis when you are convinced that you are in fact only imagining the tapping moving up your arm, but it actually is!!! 172.70.162.5 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

So... Who's setting up an actual bracket for this? Should we each create our own brackets? [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]]) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Randall's running one (see Twitter link near top), though I forget when the first-round polls are said to be closing (did it say 10 hours, when I checked for myself?) and as I'm not registered on a Twitter it's just a spectator sport for me and I'll probably rely on some other editor bringing the results over to ExplainXKCD when they are made known and putting them in the section now prepared on the Explanation page. Nothing to stop you making your own predictions/desires known ahead of the actual results, but it'd be purely a personal thing until enough people locally state their thoughts this to establish a (possibly different) ExpXKCD consensus result by manual collation of a completely scientifically-unregorous alternate poll. (Sounds like too much work for little added benefit, but maybe someone wants to do it anyway...) 172.70.90.211 16:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)