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::She is 100% aware of it, she isn't making any mistake, she is DEMONSTRATING Selection Bias completely on purpose as part of her presentation on Selection Bias. It is the AUDIENCE who is participating by accident, not realizing that by voting that they are demonstrating the bias. THAT is the joke, THAT is the fun, that they are pawns in her presentation. She is cleverly using them without their knowledge or realization. Her next line could be "See? I got you!". :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 
::She is 100% aware of it, she isn't making any mistake, she is DEMONSTRATING Selection Bias completely on purpose as part of her presentation on Selection Bias. It is the AUDIENCE who is participating by accident, not realizing that by voting that they are demonstrating the bias. THAT is the joke, THAT is the fun, that they are pawns in her presentation. She is cleverly using them without their knowledge or realization. Her next line could be "See? I got you!". :) [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 05:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:::I disagree. If Blondie were not speaking so as to give Randall an xkcd punchline, she might have followed up by saying, perhaps, "Yes, pretty much everyone here is familiar with selection bias, but this is a statistics conference, so it's probably not representative of the general public. So now I'll tell you about some recent studies where the authors didn't realize that they had problems with selection bias ...." If the audience had failed to raise their hands, Blondie would not have known whether the audience really didn't understand selection bias, or was misleading her, or misheard/misunderstood her. --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.104|172.70.131.104]] 18:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 
:::I disagree. If Blondie were not speaking so as to give Randall an xkcd punchline, she might have followed up by saying, perhaps, "Yes, pretty much everyone here is familiar with selection bias, but this is a statistics conference, so it's probably not representative of the general public. So now I'll tell you about some recent studies where the authors didn't realize that they had problems with selection bias ...." If the audience had failed to raise their hands, Blondie would not have known whether the audience really didn't understand selection bias, or was misleading her, or misheard/misunderstood her. --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.131.104|172.70.131.104]] 18:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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::::'''*sigh*''' Again, no mistake, no uncertainty. This is a statistics conference. To be at ANY conference you must be significantly involved in the field. Therefore, Blondie is making a completely safe bet that literally the entire audience is familiar with selection bias, as anyone involved in statistics must be. There is no chance whatsoever that anybody in the audience would fail to raise their hands, if they're being honest. Well, people who dislike participating in polls, but this is a simpler universe. Which also dissolves any possibility of not understanding, or misleading, or mishearing. Honestly, mine is the correct interpretation, the audience are pawns in Blondie's clever speech. Without the slightest doubt. Check into the concepts of K.I.S.S. and Occam's Razor, Randall doesn't include such hidden complications. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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::::'''*sigh*''' Again, no mistake, no uncertainty. This is a statistics conference. To be at ANY conference you must be significantly involved in the field. Therefore, Blondie is making a completely safe bet that literally the entire audience is familiar with selection bias, as anyone involved in statistics must be. There is no chance whatsoever that anybody in the audience would fail to raise their hands, if they're being honest. Well, people who dislike participating in polls, but this is a simpler universe. Which also dissolves any possibility of not understanding, or misleading, or mishearing. Honestly, mine is the correct interpretation, the audience are pawns in Blondie's clever speech. Without the slightest doubt. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 08:16, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
  
 
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