Talk:2841: Sign Combo

Theoretically you can get around this limitation by turning off the road before the sign and doing whatever maneuvers you need to out in the wide open area to the right or left of the road. It's not a U-turn if you're not on the road, and you didn't enter a restricted part of a road either, and didn't stop on the road. After which you calmly make a turn onto the road when traffic is clear. 108.162.245.207 02:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure swerving off of a road is also illegal. SteveTheNoob (talk) 04:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

You can always just pull over - if a cop asks, just tell him you were lost or tired or had to take a phone call. And then take the opportunity to ask about the bloody sign! Anonymous 07:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

So does making a three point turn count as a u-turn? 172.69.58.66 02:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC) Wouldn't putting it in reverse stop you briefly as you switched from forward acceleration to reverse?

Yes, this is also an example of Rolle's theorem as seen in 2042. SteveTheNoob (talk) 04:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Immelmann! Hammerhead! Half Cuban Eight! Jordan Brown (talk) 03:21, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

You could obey the title text if it was 45 miles per hour and 65 meters per hour, respectively. 162.158.90.96 04:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Take notice of the road markings too. At least here in Europe double white lines are not to be crossed. And they go past the point of the sign.--Henke37 (talk) 07:06, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Double lines are also "do not cross" in America. And I think in this case it's supposed to be yellow, the dashed-and-solid combo indicates a one-sided passing zone into a lane with on-coming traffic, and double lines in general are only use to separate anti-parallel lanes of traffic, both of which use yellow. "Solid double white lines" do exist, but are only used in very specific cases. Near me, there's a very congested exit, and the solid double whites are used to indicate "no really, you should have switched lanes ages ago, it's too late now!", but since it isn't a Jersey barrier or a line of rods or even a full on median, nobody actually follows the rule. Anonymous 07:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

BTW in Europe, yellow lines are reserved for temporary use, and then take precedence over any existing white lines. Makes lots of sense, because there are so many construction sites here. (And the yellow lines are actually just adhesive tape.) --162.158.87.102 08:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Back when elephants had fur, road markings in the USA were white. Starting in the 1950s, road crews throughout the USA began using yellow rather than white paint. From memory, it took about a decade for the transition to be completed, with more rural roads the last to go yellow. 162.158.90.161 18:18, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Speaking of lines ... in the USA, "Do Not Enter" signs on open roadways usually signal that the road ahead is one-way traffic coming at you. A driver is thereby warned (for example) not to enter the "exit" ramp of a freeway. However, the road striping indicates that passing is permitted for drivers proceeding forward past the sign ... which is nonsensical if the only legal traffic is coming at the viewpoint driver. I am reminded of the ancient comedy routine, "Somebody went to the Army-Navy store, got himself a sign, looked out his living room window, 'Look, Martha, we caught somebody!'" 162.158.186.118 19:19, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

And I completely forgot why I was posting in the first place: I think there's good reason to create a full "traffic signs" or "road signs" tag, not just "traffic lights". I know there's a page with a very complicated "this is what the road ahead looks like" sign that just says "good luck", and of course there's "Next Five Miles" and "Ahead Stop". Thoughts? Anonymous 07:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

More thoughts: if you must not make a U-turn to the left, you should do it to the right. And then return on the same lane, because of the double line. And finally, the sign itself may be valid and not contradicting itself; it is your fault if you got on this road. ;) --162.158.87.102 08:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

In the Netherlands, the message on signs are only valid behind the sign (with the exception of the "precedence way" (voorrangsweg), where outside of built-up areas, the signs are after a junction (though technically... way before the next junction) , so a driver stopping /u-turning here wouldn't be violating anything except the double white lines. Also, stopping out of necessity (e.g. the car in front is also stopped) is never illegal. IIVQ (talk) 09:06, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Stopping on a road with double white lines to your left may count as obstructing the road, which I can imagine to be illegal in many places? Gpvos (talk) 10:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

If I had to comply with these instructions, I would just put the car into reverse and argue that I was never "stopped". If I actually saw this in real life, I think I'd just slow down, put on my hazard lights, and make a u-turn when appropriate.Jsnider3 (talk) 10:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC

UK equivalents: (Mounted vertically, obviously, and the Clearway would have to be the small version as a repeater/reminder, already being active).
...and Title Text would require suitable numeric alterations on:
162.158.74.23 11:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

"Depending on the jurisdiction, signs may only apply to the road after them" - uh, in which jurisdictions is that not the case? How could you adhere to the signage before you see them? --172.68.110.196 15:01, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't know US signage, but there are times when there's repeater/reminder signage. Or even "this is information you, as a driver, should already be able to infer from the rules of the road, but some of you are idiots and need A BIG HINT about something that you clearly have forgotten since the time you had to pass your driving test..." erected by the authorities. 141.101.99.6 19:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)