Talk:2587: For the Sake of Simplicity

So many modern board games are made complex by complex rules, but remain simplistic. Go is very simple (grid of nineteen lines, two types of pieces, and about three rules, but is arguably the most inherently complex game in existence. RIIW - Ponder it (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

That "about" three rules, continues to confound me. Everyone who's tried to explain them to me, says it's easier to learn by playing, but I still don't fully understand, even after losing a dozen games & watching many more. It's a shapey spacey thing, & I'm not sure it makes sense to me.

ProphetZarquon (talk) 04:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Schwarzschild's radius of a mass is the radius of a black hole with equivalent mass. So a Swarchtnhsnthn orchid has similar space warping properties to a black hole. 172.69.33.223 23:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Isn't Schwarzchild Orchid a reference to Schwarzchild crystals & jewelry's floral designs, of which the orchid was considered especially beautiful (& expensive) artistry? That was the first place my mind went, with "Schwarzchild Orchid": a crystal orchid by Schwarzchild co. ?

ProphetZarquon (talk) 04:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Apart from a "family run jewellery business" in basically one location, which you might find with many such surnames, I couldn't find a Schwarzchild connection to a major jeweller. There's Swarovski (and Swarovski Crystals®) and just plain-old Schwartz, as widely-touted brandnames that sell via many online outlets. Now, I'm not 'in the trade' so I'm going just by my basic feeling that you misremember (backed up with a scant two minutes of comparative Googling - including some even less productive side-hunches, e.g. "Schwarzkopf", which got me a train engineer instead of a jeweller) and maybe I'm missing an actually quite famous (but surprisingly not so electronically documented) rival to Fabergé, but right now I don't see it. If you get a good (wiki?)link to what turns out you have actually correctly remembered, then it's possibly worth at least a Trivia entry to at least make me more informed. Over to you(/whoever gets there first), as you see appropriate! 172.70.85.177 13:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Why do people always mangle Schwarzschild's name? it's so appropriate for what he's famous for!

Oh. I just realized that it's the name of someone. As a German, I always assumed the term just refers to the radius of a "black shield" from which no light can escape. --162.158.203.76 10:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Maybe link to the other comic relating to the schwarzchild radius, 2088: Schwarzschild's Cat? 108.162.237.249 12:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Bumpf

Somebody should investigate the works of JJ Abrams and transcribe to here https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Orchid/Theories Sla29970 (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Ah... I see the change (Stamina->Cardio) makes it a strict layering of 'clarification', each "simplification" needing a further simplification to explain an aspect. When it was the original Stamina it looked like a disconnect "that didn't need explaining" that Cardio values did not need expanding upon, save that (perhaps as already explained) they probably derived upon several other values, such as the yet-to-be-further-clarified Stamina one plus others (BMI, etc). As it now is, it looks like a depth-first explanation, and one can only wonder what new rule 'simplifications' we hit between hitting the bottom of of the current reductionist precis and starting down other branches of rationalisation, on the way to the detail about the lrchids, perhaps. 172.70.86.64 14:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

One hundred internet points to whomever designs such a game! Cwallenpoole (talk) 16:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Now I'm picturing Matt Mercer running a session of whatever it is... live on Twitch. Dammit. 172.70.110.161 18:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

As an example of a similar oddity in a real game, the "simplified" version of Advanced Squad Leader, found in the Starter Kit products, includes a map with grain fields. Instead of (1) treating the grain as always present and thus able to provide concealment for soldiers, or (2) conditionally removed on a scenario-by-scenario basis ("All grain hexes are treated as Open Ground during this scenario"), the designers added a rule in the rulebook: "Grain is in season during the months of June and July". Players are expected to actually check the date printed on the scenario description in order to find out whether the grain is high enough to prevent clear shots. 172.70.93.37 06:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)