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Is he stupid [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.119|141.101.98.119]] 13:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | Is he stupid [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.119|141.101.98.119]] 13:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | :Seems totally unclear what you're referring to, here. | + | :Seems totally unclear what you're referring to, here. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::i think they're referring to this comic being somewhat late. [[user talk:lettherebedarklight|youtu.be/miLcaqq2Zpk]] 15:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ::i think they're referring to this comic being somewhat late. [[user talk:lettherebedarklight|youtu.be/miLcaqq2Zpk]] 15:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:: The comic appeared around 0800 EDT 20240727 (Saturday, a day late). As most folks here surely know, late posts are common on xkcd but aren't often later than the stated "MWF". After 19 years, and without the "weeks ahead" buffer insisted upon by "traditional" syndicated comics (as shown by [https://xkcd.com/2961/ Crowdstrike], posted the day of the event), I think Randall has done remarkably well. I'd struggle to keep a schedule like this for 19 <em>weeks</em>.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.151.95|172.71.151.95]] 15:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | :: The comic appeared around 0800 EDT 20240727 (Saturday, a day late). As most folks here surely know, late posts are common on xkcd but aren't often later than the stated "MWF". After 19 years, and without the "weeks ahead" buffer insisted upon by "traditional" syndicated comics (as shown by [https://xkcd.com/2961/ Crowdstrike], posted the day of the event), I think Randall has done remarkably well. I'd struggle to keep a schedule like this for 19 <em>weeks</em>.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.151.95|172.71.151.95]] 15:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::To be fair, there's nothing stating he doesn't have a buffer and simply spontaneously creates relevant comics when particular events happen. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.130.18|172.69.130.18]] 15:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::::There are a number of comics (back quite a few years) that I would potentially indentify as pre-preped 'filler', and occasionally the later and more technically complicated April Fool/other-event comics with unforeseen delays ''may'' have forced the advancement of what might have been originally the next one or two lined up post-April-1st 'normal' comics. | ||
+ | ::::But I think the main point is that he clearly has not done the rather impersonal task of using a cron-style auto-publisher that would reveal it to the world 'on cue' without further intervention (we know he can do something like that, from [[Time]] and other cases like the latest What-If Book promotional 'reveal' flip-book image). When he was on a European(/UK-which-was-then-still-in-EU), I think we got his typical range of 'variable' publication times shifted by around 5 or more hours just because he was 'working' five-or-six hours advance of his usual home one. So he seems to like to do it 'realtime'. | ||
+ | ::::It probably lets him be more happy with what goes up, rather than go to sleep/see a film/drive to the next city over having commited himself to something. It has still gone wrong, from wrong-sized non-2x images to the time he had to switch comics due to a [[No One Was Hurt|clash with a news event]], but I'm rather more sympathetic to perhaps a bit more of a late-night/next morning (especially by UK time) release rather than potentially all of the next week's comics invisibly locked and loaded for a precise release time (e.g. midnight, GMT+5(+DST, as necessary), albeit with the obvious possibility of a topically novel idea or response to insert/remove from the queue at will to make it ''look'' hands-on. | ||
+ | ::::Of course, he could yet be doing that. But have a randomised (or pre-selected) 'timing offset' added to the process. "This week, I'm going to pretend I have nervous insomnia and release super-early, then next week I'll make it look like I got snowed under with other distractions, and make them all appear late every following morning..." You can speculate wildly about process and motives. But it ''seems'' to not be anything like that. Hard to tell, unless he finds himself unfortunately unable to do anything (e.g. a severe and newsworthy hospitalisation) but the 'irregular thrice-weekly update' continues regardless, at least until they start to mismatch the news-cycle or hit half-prepared placeholders and then someone thinks to pull the plug on the dithering-autoposter, or he recovers enough to put up an "I still aten't dead" comic of some kind (pre-prepared, held over for just such an emergency, or hurridly drawn as soon as he can hold a stylus)... | ||
+ | ::::Honestly, I don't ever wish to test my imagination like that. But I'm just postulating from both types of basic premise, now. I know there are a few interviews where the general process has been explained, but one could just as well imagine that these explanations are as much a front as any tall tale. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.194.36|172.69.194.36]] 18:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | I think "''Synchronized'' Swimming" would be the most hilarious. One person flailing while a whole team tries to make it look choreographed. | + | I think "''Synchronized'' Swimming" would be the most hilarious. One person flailing while a whole team tries to make it look choreographed. [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC) |
− | [[User:ProphetZarquon|ProphetZarquon]] ([[User talk:ProphetZarquon|talk]]) 15:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:I picture two people that are synchronized to each other while the third person tries to look choreographed - [[Special:Contributions/162.158.212.172|162.158.212.172]] 15:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | :I picture two people that are synchronized to each other while the third person tries to look choreographed - [[Special:Contributions/162.158.212.172|162.158.212.172]] 15:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Why must I think of "The fox has left his lair"... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.71|172.71.160.71]] 16:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | :Why must I think of "The fox has left his lair"... [[Special:Contributions/172.71.160.71|172.71.160.71]] 16:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Google "SNL synchronized swimming". There's a classic sketch. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | :Google "SNL synchronized swimming". There's a classic sketch. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | :I reckon discus has got to be up there. On the other hand, least funny has to be the walking. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.43.166|172.69.43.166]] 10:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | I hear there's an opening on the GB equestrian team. Just sayin'... | + | I hear there's an opening on the GB equestrian team. Just sayin'... [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.119|141.101.69.119]] 19:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC) |
− | [[Special:Contributions/141.101.69.119|141.101.69.119]] 19:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
I'm going to disagree about a couple. Beginning pole vaulters are incredibly funny. Beginners on the pommel horse aren't usually very funny. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.252|162.158.186.252]] 19:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | I'm going to disagree about a couple. Beginning pole vaulters are incredibly funny. Beginners on the pommel horse aren't usually very funny. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.186.252|162.158.186.252]] 19:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
:I also think pole vault would be in the last category. It has always looked to me like an incredibly difficult maneuver. And I remember doing pommel horse in school; I wasn't very athletic, but I could swing around a little. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | :I also think pole vault would be in the last category. It has always looked to me like an incredibly difficult maneuver. And I remember doing pommel horse in school; I wasn't very athletic, but I could swing around a little. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 23:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | "Ski jump" has got to be a reference to Eddie the Eagle. | + | "Ski jump" has got to be a reference to Eddie the Eagle.{{unsigned ip|172.70.115.96|20:33, 27 July 2024}} |
− | Eddie was British champion. And he changed Olympic qualification rules. | + | : Eddie was British champion. And he changed Olympic qualification rules.{{unsigned ip|172.69.43.166|23:27, 27 July 2024}} |
+ | :: Both Bogataj and Edwards were competitive ski jumpers (Edwards, admittedly, marginally so), whereas the trope of this cartoon is that the protagonist (presumably Randall) is trying to enter the competition without any prior experience. The vibe seems to be - Challenger: "Can you fail more spectacularly than these two?" Randall: "Hold my beer." Olympic official: "Nice try, stick guy, but no. Here's your beer back." 'Thankfully for all concerned' seems a better fit to the Bogataj case, in which he was injured, spectators were put at risk, and the competition schedule was likely disrupted, than the Edwards case in which the only injuries were to the reputations of Olympic administrators, and which yielded a nice 15 minutes for Edwards. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.245.253|108.162.245.253]] 00:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | : I really doubt the ski jump thing is a reference to anything specific. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.23|108.162.221.23]] 13:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Randall has clearly never heard of an ejector crab https://youtu.be/UcOjeneHJ6E [[Special:Contributions/172.69.6.207|172.69.6.207]] 16:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Actually this is an even better example https://youtu.be/hxOW739UlWk [[Special:Contributions/172.69.6.144|172.69.6.144]] 16:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | A German surfer managed to moon all Olympics viewers today, so I doubt Randall could beat that... [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.24|108.162.221.24]] 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | This is one of the worst XKCDs I've ever seen, I think. {{unsigned ip|162.158.63.70|05:49, 29 July 2024}} | ||
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+ | :You wouldn't be saying that if he'd happened to mention breakdancing. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.27.24|172.68.27.24]] 06:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Possibly Randall is aware that an uncoached newcomer to the single sculls will almost certainly capsize their boat, quite possibly one the first stroke as this is the most unstable position. It might be possible to flip a pair oar as well, since the professional rower can only hold up the boat on one side. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.64.223|172.68.64.223]] 08:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | : Further, the the pair oar would likely inscribe a circle due to the asymetric thrust. In the larger boats he'd likely get smashed in the spine by an oar handle (TBF not that funny) or catch a crab (dig in an oar) that literally throws him out of the boat (both painful and funny) [[Special:Contributions/172.68.64.148|172.68.64.148]] 09:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I doubt that running through the hurdles would really be painful, as depicted - they're pretty light and designed to be easily knocked over.[[Special:Contributions/141.101.99.148|141.101.99.148]] 10:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Clearly a study on what is funny in these situations must be performed. I would like all checks in this study to be written to me. However, if they are written to Munroe Randal and he and his selected sample attempt them I would be satisfied.{{unsigned ip|172.71.254.103|13:22, 29 July 2024}} | ||
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+ | So we're not going to talk about his Randall's reference to winter Olympic sports in 2024 (Summer Olympics year)? {{unsigned ip|172.71.154.9|16:44, 29 July 2024}} | ||
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+ | In Rowing untrained persons actually might be able to win a medal as coxswain (or at least were able so in the past, see {{w|Rowing at the 1900 Summer Olympics}}). --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.253.135|172.68.253.135]] 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | There should be a section for most horrifying. Lead climbing and shooting spring to mind as sports that I would not want to watch a compltely untrained person do. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.60.184|172.69.60.184]] 13:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 13:15, 29 September 2024
What took bro so long
Is he stupid 141.101.98.119 13:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Seems totally unclear what you're referring to, here. ProphetZarquon (talk) 15:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- i think they're referring to this comic being somewhat late. youtu.be/miLcaqq2Zpk 15:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- The comic appeared around 0800 EDT 20240727 (Saturday, a day late). As most folks here surely know, late posts are common on xkcd but aren't often later than the stated "MWF". After 19 years, and without the "weeks ahead" buffer insisted upon by "traditional" syndicated comics (as shown by Crowdstrike, posted the day of the event), I think Randall has done remarkably well. I'd struggle to keep a schedule like this for 19 weeks.172.71.151.95 15:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, there's nothing stating he doesn't have a buffer and simply spontaneously creates relevant comics when particular events happen. 172.69.130.18 15:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are a number of comics (back quite a few years) that I would potentially indentify as pre-preped 'filler', and occasionally the later and more technically complicated April Fool/other-event comics with unforeseen delays may have forced the advancement of what might have been originally the next one or two lined up post-April-1st 'normal' comics.
- But I think the main point is that he clearly has not done the rather impersonal task of using a cron-style auto-publisher that would reveal it to the world 'on cue' without further intervention (we know he can do something like that, from Time and other cases like the latest What-If Book promotional 'reveal' flip-book image). When he was on a European(/UK-which-was-then-still-in-EU), I think we got his typical range of 'variable' publication times shifted by around 5 or more hours just because he was 'working' five-or-six hours advance of his usual home one. So he seems to like to do it 'realtime'.
- It probably lets him be more happy with what goes up, rather than go to sleep/see a film/drive to the next city over having commited himself to something. It has still gone wrong, from wrong-sized non-2x images to the time he had to switch comics due to a clash with a news event, but I'm rather more sympathetic to perhaps a bit more of a late-night/next morning (especially by UK time) release rather than potentially all of the next week's comics invisibly locked and loaded for a precise release time (e.g. midnight, GMT+5(+DST, as necessary), albeit with the obvious possibility of a topically novel idea or response to insert/remove from the queue at will to make it look hands-on.
- Of course, he could yet be doing that. But have a randomised (or pre-selected) 'timing offset' added to the process. "This week, I'm going to pretend I have nervous insomnia and release super-early, then next week I'll make it look like I got snowed under with other distractions, and make them all appear late every following morning..." You can speculate wildly about process and motives. But it seems to not be anything like that. Hard to tell, unless he finds himself unfortunately unable to do anything (e.g. a severe and newsworthy hospitalisation) but the 'irregular thrice-weekly update' continues regardless, at least until they start to mismatch the news-cycle or hit half-prepared placeholders and then someone thinks to pull the plug on the dithering-autoposter, or he recovers enough to put up an "I still aten't dead" comic of some kind (pre-prepared, held over for just such an emergency, or hurridly drawn as soon as he can hold a stylus)...
- Honestly, I don't ever wish to test my imagination like that. But I'm just postulating from both types of basic premise, now. I know there are a few interviews where the general process has been explained, but one could just as well imagine that these explanations are as much a front as any tall tale. 172.69.194.36 18:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, there's nothing stating he doesn't have a buffer and simply spontaneously creates relevant comics when particular events happen. 172.69.130.18 15:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
I think "Synchronized Swimming" would be the most hilarious. One person flailing while a whole team tries to make it look choreographed. ProphetZarquon (talk) 15:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- I picture two people that are synchronized to each other while the third person tries to look choreographed - 162.158.212.172 15:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why must I think of "The fox has left his lair"... 172.71.160.71 16:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Google "SNL synchronized swimming". There's a classic sketch. Barmar (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- I reckon discus has got to be up there. On the other hand, least funny has to be the walking. 172.69.43.166 10:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I hear there's an opening on the GB equestrian team. Just sayin'... 141.101.69.119 19:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm going to disagree about a couple. Beginning pole vaulters are incredibly funny. Beginners on the pommel horse aren't usually very funny. 162.158.186.252 19:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also think pole vault would be in the last category. It has always looked to me like an incredibly difficult maneuver. And I remember doing pommel horse in school; I wasn't very athletic, but I could swing around a little. Barmar (talk) 23:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
"Ski jump" has got to be a reference to Eddie the Eagle. 172.70.115.96 (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- Eddie was British champion. And he changed Olympic qualification rules. 172.69.43.166 (talk) 23:27, 27 July 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- Both Bogataj and Edwards were competitive ski jumpers (Edwards, admittedly, marginally so), whereas the trope of this cartoon is that the protagonist (presumably Randall) is trying to enter the competition without any prior experience. The vibe seems to be - Challenger: "Can you fail more spectacularly than these two?" Randall: "Hold my beer." Olympic official: "Nice try, stick guy, but no. Here's your beer back." 'Thankfully for all concerned' seems a better fit to the Bogataj case, in which he was injured, spectators were put at risk, and the competition schedule was likely disrupted, than the Edwards case in which the only injuries were to the reputations of Olympic administrators, and which yielded a nice 15 minutes for Edwards. 108.162.245.253 00:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- I really doubt the ski jump thing is a reference to anything specific. 108.162.221.23 13:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Randall has clearly never heard of an ejector crab https://youtu.be/UcOjeneHJ6E 172.69.6.207 16:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually this is an even better example https://youtu.be/hxOW739UlWk 172.69.6.144 16:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
A German surfer managed to moon all Olympics viewers today, so I doubt Randall could beat that... 108.162.221.24 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
This is one of the worst XKCDs I've ever seen, I think. 162.158.63.70 (talk) 05:49, 29 July 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- You wouldn't be saying that if he'd happened to mention breakdancing. 172.68.27.24 06:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Possibly Randall is aware that an uncoached newcomer to the single sculls will almost certainly capsize their boat, quite possibly one the first stroke as this is the most unstable position. It might be possible to flip a pair oar as well, since the professional rower can only hold up the boat on one side. 172.68.64.223 08:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Further, the the pair oar would likely inscribe a circle due to the asymetric thrust. In the larger boats he'd likely get smashed in the spine by an oar handle (TBF not that funny) or catch a crab (dig in an oar) that literally throws him out of the boat (both painful and funny) 172.68.64.148 09:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I doubt that running through the hurdles would really be painful, as depicted - they're pretty light and designed to be easily knocked over.141.101.99.148 10:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Clearly a study on what is funny in these situations must be performed. I would like all checks in this study to be written to me. However, if they are written to Munroe Randal and he and his selected sample attempt them I would be satisfied. 172.71.254.103 (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
So we're not going to talk about his Randall's reference to winter Olympic sports in 2024 (Summer Olympics year)? 172.71.154.9 (talk) 16:44, 29 July 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
In Rowing untrained persons actually might be able to win a medal as coxswain (or at least were able so in the past, see Rowing at the 1900 Summer Olympics). --172.68.253.135 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
There should be a section for most horrifying. Lead climbing and shooting spring to mind as sports that I would not want to watch a compltely untrained person do. 172.69.60.184 13:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)