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This comic is about the four fundamental forces of physics: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force, and the weak force. In typical xkcd fashion, [[Randall]] also adds a joke entry.
 
This comic is about the four fundamental forces of physics: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force, and the weak force. In typical xkcd fashion, [[Randall]] also adds a joke entry.
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It also talks about the [[658: Orbitals|Pauli Exclusion Principle]].
  
 
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==Transcript==

Revision as of 07:10, 21 December 2024

Exclusion Principle
Fermions are weird about each other in a standoffish way. Integer-spin particles are weird about each other in a 'stand uncomfortably close while talking' kind of way.
Title text: Fermions are weird about each other in a standoffish way. Integer-spin particles are weird about each other in a 'stand uncomfortably close while talking' kind of way.

Explanation

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This comic is about the four fundamental forces of physics: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force, and the weak force. In typical xkcd fashion, Randall also adds a joke entry.

It also talks about the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

Transcript

[Inside panel:]

Fundamental Forces

1. Gravity
2. Electromagnetism
3. The Weak Interaction
4. The Strong Interaction
5. Electrons are weird about each other

[Caption below list:]

Big news: Physicists have finally given up on trying to explain about the "exchange interaction" and agreed to just make the exclusion principle a force.


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Discussion

It should be noted, that amusingly, since the quantum gravity has yet to be full explained thanks to the fact that gravity affects, and that for all we know, Exclusion Principle may be just as valid, if not more so, to be on the list as Gravity (even though Exclusion Principle should not, generally, be on this list.) -- LilithRose (talk) 06:48, 21 December 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Polymagnetic topologies as "color" charge, strong vs weak, etc?

I'm increasingly under the impression that these forces & principles, are each an expression of complex electromagnetic interactions? I've never quite understood why they're viewed as separate forces, instead of distinct-but-related expressions of a single type of force across complex topologies.

Particularly, I'm unclear why quark\gluon "color" interactions are seen as anything other than topologically-asymmetric fields interlocking; it just looks like the behavior of polymagnet fields, to me. (By the way, I'm glad there's now a common term, "polymagnetic", for the patterned fields that I'm sure many of us assembled while playing with tiny neodymium magnets & wire, as kids! Arranging multiple cores for a smaller, denser field, & observing that the patterns could interlock, felt like major 'Aha!' moments for me, at the time.)

I was so frustrated by my own feeling of "this complex thing I know very little about, really seems to have a very basic underlying principle that's being widely misconstrued", that I've petitioned a mindless bot to hear my case. (You'd have to scroll at least about halfway down, to get to any prompts even slightly interesting.) I'm probably wasting everyone's time with this, but it has been bothering me, more & more for decades, & my reading so far hasn't lessened that.

Why is everyone so insistent that these 'other' forces aren't magnetism? Seems like quite literally everything is magnetism, to me. Besides a formal education in the matter, what the heck am I missing, here?

ProphetZarquon (talk) 15:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)