Talk:2657: Complex Vowels
Spoken symbol bears resemblance to 🜏, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%9F%9C%8F
- Not really, it's closer to 'əG.' 172.69.33.25 01:15, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like ꬱ to me. Plus some diacritics sprinkled over it, of course. It does look similar to 🜏 when you include the zalgo. 172.71.98.99 06:53, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
sscchhwwaa is easy, say it like the x in "fire" and the silent p in "bath"172.70.85.13 21:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- What? There is no 'x' in "fire." 172.69.33.25 01:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Ideas: bellows-, reed-, and lucite-based voiced phone production tracts typical in science museums; diphones as an alternative to phomemes (a diphone is the second half of one phoneme followed by the first half of the next -- NOT two adjacent phomemes as the Wikipedia article claims. Two adjacent phomemes are a biphone, not a diphone); the relationship of the position of the tongue in two dimensional place × closedeness space to the fundamental and second formant frequencies of speech audio; diphthongs; cepstral representation such as mel-frequency ceptstral coefficients; and Zalgo text IPA. 172.70.206.213 22:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Roger. 172.69.33.149 03:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
The vowelspace is depicted in two dimensions for convenience, but it has at least three dimensions. Look at the IPA vowel diagram (already added to this page). The third dimension is roundedness.
- Yes, of the lips; apart from the two dimensions (out: place, and up: closedeness) of the tongue. 172.70.206.95 22:59, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Does roundedness also involve the tongue and cheeks to any extent? 172.69.33.199 23:36, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
This linguist character has appeared 3 times now. Will there be a new character page dedicated to Gretchen or "The Linguist"? 172.69.33.225 00:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Can someone please create and paste in a zalgostring for the fancy 'əG' ligature shown twice in the comic? 172.70.211.134 01:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Is this another example of Randall trolling Explainxkcd as in 2619: Crêpe? 172.69.33.37 01:45, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Someone please remind me how to Zalgo a top horizontal bar over √-1. 172.70.211.134 02:34, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Slow way = Windows Character Map --> Group by: unicode subrange... Group By: Combining Diacritical Marks. 6th character from the top left (U+0305:Overline) yields √-̅1̅.
- Fast way = HTML character entities, {character it combines with}&#{character number code}; (773:Overline) yields √-̅1̅
- Ignore other codes as they are either non-combining or have height relative to combining character (ie Macron) -- 172.69.70.201 04:35, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Are you sure? Those aren't wide enough to connect along the top for me. 172.69.34.10 07:57, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I don’t think what Randall is trying to do is provide a “roundness” dimension, but that’s how the explanation reads to me right now (“such” a dimension, e.g.) Szeth Pancakes (talk) 05:13, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed - rearranged it a bit to deal with the real-life dimensions first, then be more explicit that the proposal is to add to the existing dimensions in a way analogous to how imaginary numbers expand the domain of real numbers. 172.70.91.128 08:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
