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+ | White Hat is trying to start a conversation with Cueball about Star Wars, which Cueball cuts short by stating that he hasn't seen the movies. While this amazes White Hat, as seeing Start Wars is considered by many to be a universal experience, Cueball points out how it's actually quite easy to NOT do something. When White Hat finally grasps that Cueball has indeed not seen Star Wars, he declares they must see it. When Cueball still isn't interested, he seemingly calls in reinforcements, so Cueball quickly removes himself from the situation. | ||
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+ | Later, when Ponytail likewise wishes to start a conversation about Star Wars, this time about a new movie coming out, based on his previous experience Cueball reconsiders admitting to not having seen the movies and instead pretends to be looking forward to the new movie. Ponytail then tries to continue the conversation, so Cueball bluffs with an incorrect declaration that Darth Vader eats Jedi. | ||
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+ | However, Ponytail doesn't call him on this error, making Cueball think a sigh of relief at not getting caught in his deception, which results in Ponytail likewise thinking a sigh of relief, showing that she likewise has not seen Star Wars, is also hiding this, and is also glad to not be caught. | ||
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+ | The title text is a tip for people like Cueball, to help them hide their deception, stating that the Jedi Prince series made so many strange declarations and established so many weird things that it makes for an excellent scapegoat to blame such ill-fitting declarations on, seeing as even the most devoted, well informed fan has agreed to forget the entire series. | ||
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+ | This comic is most likely in reference to a new Star Wars movie, Rogue One, coming out in American theaters 9 days later on Dec. 16 (exactly a week before the Belgian release of Dec. 14). | ||
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Revision as of 06:01, 7 December 2016
Explanation
Template:First explanation, first draft. Be kind. :)
White Hat is trying to start a conversation with Cueball about Star Wars, which Cueball cuts short by stating that he hasn't seen the movies. While this amazes White Hat, as seeing Start Wars is considered by many to be a universal experience, Cueball points out how it's actually quite easy to NOT do something. When White Hat finally grasps that Cueball has indeed not seen Star Wars, he declares they must see it. When Cueball still isn't interested, he seemingly calls in reinforcements, so Cueball quickly removes himself from the situation.
Later, when Ponytail likewise wishes to start a conversation about Star Wars, this time about a new movie coming out, based on his previous experience Cueball reconsiders admitting to not having seen the movies and instead pretends to be looking forward to the new movie. Ponytail then tries to continue the conversation, so Cueball bluffs with an incorrect declaration that Darth Vader eats Jedi.
However, Ponytail doesn't call him on this error, making Cueball think a sigh of relief at not getting caught in his deception, which results in Ponytail likewise thinking a sigh of relief, showing that she likewise has not seen Star Wars, is also hiding this, and is also glad to not be caught.
The title text is a tip for people like Cueball, to help them hide their deception, stating that the Jedi Prince series made so many strange declarations and established so many weird things that it makes for an excellent scapegoat to blame such ill-fitting declarations on, seeing as even the most devoted, well informed fan has agreed to forget the entire series.
This comic is most likely in reference to a new Star Wars movie, Rogue One, coming out in American theaters 9 days later on Dec. 16 (exactly a week before the Belgian release of Dec. 14).
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Discussion
Star Wars, pronounced Star Wors, was a very successful sci-fi action adventure movie from the 70s. Due to the success of the film, a sequel was made and is generally considered better than the first. The two movies are so iconic that someone who has not seen one or both of them would be considered unusual. Other sequals have been made, keeping the fanbase of the material constantly hoping for a 3rd movie that is on par with the firat two. Sadly, no such conclusion to the trilogy has arrived. Instead, each attempted sequel(more than half a dozen now) has been not much more than a 90 minute insult to the good taste and intelligence of the fans. This continued abuse of the star wars fanbase has prompted many former fans of the series to forgo watching recent releases, and to disavow ever seeing the original work in the first place. It appears that some of the cast of xkcd be doing likewise. 172.68.79.83 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- They made a conclusion, and didn't remake it. It was Episode VI. Also, you didn't even proofread your spelling. I can tell that everything beyond your first sentence is random judgement and you assumed everybody else feels the same way, as in 1534: Beer. I agree with 162.158.2.60 as well, and That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 20:37, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- DAFUQ?? Seriously, just no... 108.162.242.98 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- The prequels were horrificly bad, but Episode VI was about as good as the original two, and Episode VII is actually better. Also, not including the first two movies, there are 5 sequals/prequals (6 if you include the unreleased Rogue One). That's not over 6. Also, everyone seems to agree that the 3 prequals are the only bad ones in the series (yet). 162.158.2.60 10:10, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Some people found the Ewoks annoying. Jkshapiro (talk) 13:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- It's more than 6 if you count Ewok Adventures and the Holiday Special (which 99% of fans would rather forget about), which also add to the number of "bad ones" and the Clone Wars movie was only saved by the TV show that followed it. You are right about the rest of the post though, I suspect troll.108.162.238.11 12:37, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, I just saw Rogue one and the plot is two tidbits of backstory mixed in with everything catching fire and exploding. That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 22:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
My first time providing an explanation and transcript! For once I'm early enough, understand the joke, AND had time! LOL! Be kind... :)
(Hey, if I had an account would I still have to do those damned Captchas?) - NiceGuy1 162.158.126.227 06:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. (And WEIRD timing, I only just noticed a few minutes ago my newly earned freedom from Captchas, having signed up like 4 days ago and having gone around re-signing my comments like this) NiceGuy1 (talk) 03:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- I assume your account would have to be autoconfirmed. That means its having over a certain "age" and over a certain edit count. I think the age is a couple of days and the edit threshold is fifteen, though this wiki may have those values configured differently. ~AgentMuffin
You mean it is not a reference to the BBC Radio 4 show. As an experience I will give XKCD 9/10. 141.101.98.183 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- It is the go-to example of a film that 'everyone' has seen. Added a not to this effect, although I feel it could be better phrased. Surprised TVTropes doesn't have a page on this. Luckykaa (talk) 12:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Fan Myopia is the assumption that a work you like is more popular than it is.141.101.98.177 15:21, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Although Fan Myopia is more for obscure works; when someone is ignorant of a well-known work it's Popcultural Osmosis Failure.162.158.154.229 14:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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I added a few speculations about the number of people who actually have seen the movies (or one of them). If someone find a decent reference feel free to edit that. I also noticed one word play, not sure if it should be explained or not, but probably. 141.101.80.89 09:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- The issue with the numbers is that making them worldwide seems to miss the point and ends up being rather misleading. After all, any third world country is likely to have roughly 0 viewers, which brings the statistics down. It has been my impression that the feeling that everybody has seen Star Wars is a very North American thing, especially in America. And the cast of XKCD generally seem to reside in America. Of the billion people estimated viewers, I suspect a FAR higher percentage of them are North American than the precentage of North Americans to the world population (in other words, North America is over-represented in that billion). In the end, the assumption that everybody you encounter while in North America has seen them is actually a fairly reasonably assumption, while a percentage of 15% makes it sound like it's not. Also, there's the implied qualifier of opportunity. Cueball could easily have chosen to watch the films at some point, while there are many people worldwide for whom it has never been an option. And this comic is more about choosing not to, exercising their default option as it were. :) - NiceGuy1 162.158.126.227 04:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. NiceGuy1 (talk) 03:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Is there any canonical evidence Vader didn't eat Jedi though? In the prequel films, he only kills Jedi off-screen. In A New Hope, when he kills Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan disappears. Maybe he just went hungry that day. 141.101.98.143 11:38, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Isn't there at least one scene in the prequel trilogy of Anakin eating something? Along with that, Vader has to have his helmet on outside his meditation chamber (evidenced by Luke saying Vader will die if Luke takes his helmet off in RotJ). It would be logical that Vader gets his nutrition intravenously or in a smoothie/drink form that he can ingest through his helmet, and Jedi are notoriously hard to turn into a smoothie. 108.162.238.40
- Jedi don't have to be the only part of his diet, and we don't know when in Vader's life he starts eating Jedi. Vader presumably drags them back to the meditation chamber when he wants to feast properly. He appears to have the teeth to do it. Maybe when he's too desperate for Jedi flesh, he blends Jedi corpses using either mechanical or force means. 141.101.98.143 19:10, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- When a jedi dies, there is no body. He instantly becomes a Force ghost and vanishes. That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 22:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not usually. There's only four Jedi in the core canon shown to have achieved that, and only Obi-Wan and Yoda are actually depicted immediately vanishing. Vader may also eat Jedi alive. 141.101.98.64 11:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- As of The Last Jedi, post-dating your comment, it shown that <spoiler> does that too... ;) 172.70.86.22 19:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Not usually. There's only four Jedi in the core canon shown to have achieved that, and only Obi-Wan and Yoda are actually depicted immediately vanishing. Vader may also eat Jedi alive. 141.101.98.64 11:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
-- I think that the explanation should point out that the author differently form cueball is actually a huge fan of the saga with a vast knowlage of the SW lore including obscure expanded universe publications 141.101.98.184 16:01, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
-- It's missing any comment on the "superpower" bit. I'm not sure where to add it and kind of rushed now, so I just leave this note to maybe prod someone else... MAP (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I was wondering about that, too. In fact, I was particularly looking for an explanation for the claim that "Not doing things is (a) superpower". I conclude that it can't be related in any way to Star Wars (I belong to the 85%), or else someone would have metioned it. It seems like a simple, slightly sarcastic joke to me, but, as the editors here have so much more insight into xkcd, I'm probably missing some deeper meaning here? 172.70.250.221 12:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
I think it's time for a Star Wars remake. Like start with the first movie (ep iv). Maybe I'm wrong but I think young people nowadays don't enjoy sci-fi/action movies without a lot of CG. 162.158.91.218 06:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Disney did that already, and called it Episode VII. Unless you consider "reboot" to be separate from "remake" for some reason. 162.158.58.226 18:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
As a fan dear god I hope the idea to remake the originals does not catch on. The re-releases were bad enough. 108.162.221.165 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
He's updated it with the lines added to the first pannel. Halfhat (talk) 14:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- oh yeah! somebody need to update the image and make a trivia. That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 22:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
I used to be like Cueball. And then I grew the hell up and realized that avoiding good movies is the least normal thing of all162.158.255.72 21:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
May the sauce be with you. Mushrooms (talk) 07:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)