1929: Argument Timing

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Argument Timing
Of course, everyone has their own profile. There are morning arguers, hangry arguers, meal-time arguers, late-night arguers, and people who get in a meta-argument over what their argument timing is, dredge up examples of past arguments, and end up fighting over THOSE again as well.
Title text: Of course, everyone has their own profile. There are morning arguers, hangry arguers, meal-time arguers, late-night arguers, and people who get in a meta-argument over what their argument timing is, dredge up examples of past arguments, and end up fighting over THOSE again as well.


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Commentary on (a) the prevalence of using mobile devices in bed combined with (b) burgeoning use of social media and the potential for conflict that occurs on such platforms, especially Facebook.

Before mobile devices were common, the ability to argue on-line usually ended when a person left their desk and went to bed. Before social media was common, arguments with friends would occur in person.

The red line remains above zero for a short time after Randall goes to sleep. He must sometimes fall asleep while writing a social media post but finish it while sleep-typing.

The title text talks about different types of arguers, saying that some people argue more at certain times. "Hangry" is a portmanteau of "hungry" and "angry", meaning bad-tempered or irritable as a result of hunger.


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[Shown is a curved time plot. There is a black line, marked "Before Smartphones and Facebook" and a red line marked "After." On the Y axis, "Odds of getting in a friendship-ending argument." There is no scale shown for the Y axis. On the X axis, at uneven intervals, are times of the day, beginning at "Wake Up" and ending with "Fall Asleep." With the exception of waking up and falling asleep, the red line is slightly lower than the black line. Directly after waking up and during the interval between going to bed and falling asleep, the black line is near zero while the red line peaks.]

0 - Wake Up: Both lines are at zero. Wake Up - Get Out Of Bed: The black line moves up only slightly, by 1%. The red line sharply jumps up, peaking at 56%, and then falls sharply to about 20%. Get Out Of Bed - Breakfast: The black line peaks at 15% as it reaches "Breakfast." The red line falls to 12%.

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In addition to the many arguments that might occur through early morning or late night texting, it is also possible that a lot of arguments occur at those times because the facebook and texting activities at those hours interfere with normal healthy life activity and start with one's partner saying something like, "put the phone away and go to sleep". Rtanenbaum (talk) 16:54, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Hopefully someone more talented in maths can calculate if the integrals are identical 🤔 16:56, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

The graph doesn't say if the probability is per unit time (eg per day), per friendship or per failed friendship. Only in the last case would the integral be 1. For the others you might expect the total probability to be higher now than it was, because it's so much easier. 22:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
I would expect the integral under the red line to be much higher - Facebook and like have cheapened the meaning of friendship to the point I don't even KNOW a lot of my so called friends162.158.126.64 00:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Gonna be honest, expected a Net Neutrality comic. DPS2004'); DROP TABLE users;-- (talk) 17:04, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

And this is why I don't use Facebook. ----

A non-zero value after going to sleep doesn't necessarily imply sleep-typing. It could be that he's sending messages just before going to sleep, which then aren't being received by the other party until later. 08:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

To react on the "sleep typing" part, and the "receive during the night"/"read while the other is asleep" argument. I think the comic rather highlights the fact a lot of people keep typing on their phones while in bed, or start the day by typing a bit before getting up, while in both cases being "perfectly" awake. This might even be a moment of very strong activity as there is nothing else to do - unlike during lunch breaks or work. Additionally, since more and more people start typing during their pauses, they diminish the chances of having an argument in direct conversation. likewise they don't type so much strong stuff while having others around, in order to remain sort of social. 17:09, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
It's not just 'sleep typing' or delays in receiving messages (note, that due to snail mail, etc., this should have always been a non-zero rate-of-occurrence) modern social media allows us to get into friendship ending arguments even when neither party is conscious simultaneously much more easily than was ever possible before, as seen by the many, many arguments that occur through short utterances, issued at a rate between that of face-to-face verbal communication and postal missive. For example, Party A can discover an old remark that Party 1 made, quite sometime previously, on one of their 'walls,' and respond to it, prompting a response from Part 1...in this manner, the two Parties could have quite the heated argument, with a facility and fevor difficult to match with olde fashion pen-and-ink-and-Pony-Express methods, and easily destroy a friendship with far greater efficiency than our less advantaged forebears. - 05:01, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

I like that the timeline ends after he goes to bed, as it should be (and not at midnight, like so many stupid calendar apps do). -- 04:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Outside of the waking-up and falling-asleep periods, does this mean that arguments have gone down since the rise of social media, or are the red and black lines adjusted to the total number of arguments per day? WingedCat (talk) 23:10, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Considering that Randall seems to have the most offline arguments at dinner, should we recommend a marriage counselor? 04:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)