Editing Talk:2844: Black Holes vs Regular Holes

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FIRST! hehehe [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Alright, working on transcript now. [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
: Done! [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Also got some of the explanation in, but i don't know too much. if anyone can improve on it please go ahead [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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[[User:DougM|DougM]] ([[User talk:DougM|talk]]) 18:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC) I think I disagree with his assessment that regular holes are not a result of the big bang.  Convince me regular holes would exist without it?
:Only in the sense that ''everything'' is ultimately caused by the big bang. But "created by" is not the same as "caused by" -- we usually interpret creation as a more direct process. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]])

The LHC caused a regular hole by being built deep in the ground. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.200.142|172.70.200.142]] 18:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

"Regular" holes? Like square? Or perhaps strictly periodic in nature? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.131|172.69.79.131]] 18:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
:Regular == ordinary, normal. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::An awful Americanism. If it isn't actually periodic, or of maximum symmetry, it shouldn't be called "regular". If it's "the usual or common thing" then there are already other words. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.79|141.101.98.79]] 18:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
:::So I put common gasoline in my car?  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 18:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::::Maybe you do. I tend to put standard (E10, these days) unleaded petrol in mine! [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.49|162.158.74.49]] 21:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Everyone knows that SERN used the LHC to create Kerr black holes to make jelly. Randall must be an agent of the Organization if he's trying to hide it. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.132|172.70.90.132]] 18:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
:I could not locate any references to Kerr black holes and jelly. Is that an original concept?[[User:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For]] ([[User talk:These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For|talk]]) 14:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::If you get too close to a black hole, Kerr or otherwise, much of your body will resemble jelly, then resemble spaghetti, then quark soup.  Excuse me while I prepare lunch. [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 18:54, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::I believe this was a pun on the Kerr brand of mason jars, which one could use to make jelly at home. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.214.204|172.69.214.204]] 23:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
::It was a reference to the [https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/SERN Steins;Gate franchise] (spoilers). "Jelly" refers to the result of [https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/Episode_05:_Starmine_Rendezvous SERN's human experiments] (also spoilers). [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.229|172.70.91.229]] 02:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

"Fatal to get a big one in your body"? Even medium-sized black hole is significantly bigger than human body, how would it fit inside? That said, being even just near any black hole is fatal: if it's not big enough to eat you, it's small enough to release dangerous amount of radiation. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 21:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
: An Earth-mass black hole would be about 1.8 cm in diameter, which could pass through a human, but it would indeed be totally disruptive.  [[User:Nutster|Nutster]] ([[User talk:Nutster|talk]]) 18:54, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

:Not necessarily if it's small enough. We don't know what would happen to a black hole of Planck mass. If it's stable, then it wouldn't really affect you, because it would be unable to radiate and also unable to accrete matter gravitationally. It would orbit the Earth as a WIMP doing practically nothing. Even if it's unstable and evaporates while releasing a colossal amount of energy (about 1.2 × 10¹⁶ TeV), it might not be a problem, because the particles might be moving too fast to transfer any meaningful amount of energy to your body. They would basically just pass right out of you with no effect. But of course we don't really know. [[User:EebstertheGreat|EebstertheGreat]] ([[User talk:EebstertheGreat|talk]]) 21:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I would have liked to see a row: There are songs about them: Yes (e.g., Spaghettification by Christine Lavin) and Yes (e.g., Sea of Holes by the Beatles) [[User:Matchups|Matchups]] ([[User talk:Matchups|talk]]) 00:32, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
: Don't forget that Soundgarden song: Regular Hole Sun. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.247.62|172.69.247.62]] 05:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
::Now they know how many black holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.[[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.62|172.71.242.62]] 10:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

One obvious type of hole was not discussed. The Acme Portable Hole™ is an entirely different class of holes as extensively demonstrated in {{w|Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner|this documentation}}. {{unsigned ip|141.101.98.127|10:27, 31 October 2023}} <code><= originally posted to Talk:2845</code>

"I '''REALLY''' hope not" made me cackle the first time I read it, and still does. [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 20:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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 Alright, working on transcript now. [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 : Done! [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
-:: Transcripts should really not be markup-tables, ideally. I know some (that describe tables) are, but you really need to set it all out in 'Transcript markup', such as:
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-::  [A table with three columns, the column headers are:] ... ... ...
-::  [Row:] ...thing which the row says... [Black hole:] ...foo... [Normal hole:] ...bar...
-::  ...etc
-:: You need to think about how a screen-reader might interact with this text. Not all can 'deconstruct' an HTML table and make as much sense as a good description.
-:: Although kudos for you for typing the text in, which the rest of the description should at least pad out fairly easily. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.131|172.69.79.131]] 18:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 Also got some of the explanation in, but i don't know too much. if anyone can improve on it please go ahead [[User:SomeoneIGuess|someone, i guess]] ([[User talk:SomeoneIGuess|talk]]) 17:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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 [[User:DougM|DougM]] ([[User talk:DougM|talk]]) 18:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC) I think I disagree with his assessment that regular holes are not a result of the big bang.  Convince me regular holes would exist without it?
 :Only in the sense that ''everything'' is ultimately caused by the big bang. But "created by" is not the same as "caused by" -- we usually interpret creation as a more direct process. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]])