Talk:2929: Good and Bad Ideas

Lots of bread/food in the "good" quadrant; I think Randall is hungry. 162.158.154.73 05:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Soup always seems like a very good idea to me. I guess I like soup. --172.69.79.182 07:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I remember something like this in what if. SectorCorruptor 07:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

The title immediately reminded me on the Animaniacs shorts "Good Idea / Bad Idea" Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Does anybody know why solar cars and transitions lenses are actually a bad idea? 172.70.160.173 09:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Transitions lenses are misplaced. The only caveat is that if you like outdoor photography (landscapes, wildlife, etc.) you should get grey lenses rather than brown ones, because the brown ones make a blue sky seem overcast. Pjt33 (talk) 09:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

The precise opposite is true. Grey lenses make all things - blue sky included - look greyer, as is perhaps unsurprising. Brown tints involve a degree of orange, which means the overall impression is of a "warmer" colour pallette, rather than simply a duller one. There is a reason that "grey skies" and "overcast" mean exactly the same thing - an overcast sky is a grey tinted filter. Yorkshire Pudding (talk) 09:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

But perceived colour isn't the same as the actual colour hitting the retina: the brain corrects it. A blue sky filtered through a grey lens is still perceived as blue, but I find that a blue sky filtered through a brown lens appears grey. This is from personal experience: I switched from grey Transitions to brown ones because the frame that I liked was a brassy colour, and I regretted it when I next went out for bird photography. 188.114.111.152 09:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I think the Transition lens issue is primarily that the bright light that can turn them dark need not be heading into the eye. With the Sun (say) off at an angle, it could be 'reacting' your lenses to dark needlesly, and reducing your ability to discern the things in front of you (which may be in shadow), working against the basic ability of the eye to adjust itself as per observed illumination.

Conversely, a small bright light would not sufficiently darken the lenses but be still damaging to the spot(s) it falls upon in your retina (or do the "whole lens go dark" thing and still be too bright even as you can't see anything else beyond it). This might also be combined with the general secondary problem of potentially all regular sunglasses/goggles, that aren't industrial-grade or specific solar-specs, in that it might make it look safe to stare at bright things/skies through them but you cannot tell how much UV/etc is also being filtered out (some brands do have notable UV protection, but you really have to trust their claims/certifications – unless you have your own testing kit and knowledge of how much is good/bad anyway).

I'd add that, but it needs a sharper explanation than I just gave. I'd like to make what's already there snappier, before that, plus correct the numerous typos and funny formatting (and lack of useful wikilinks), but will probably leave that to others with the time. 172.71.242.204 10:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Just as a note while we're here: "fecal transplant" is one of the most spectacular branding failures in the history of medical science, in my opinion. I mean, don't put the word "fecal" in anything you want people to feel positively about. And "microbiome transplant" is sitting right there, ready to serve.108.162.242.37 10:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Double plug cords are VERY MUCH a bad idea. Used mostly to plug generators into an outlet to power a house, it tends to harm people working on the power lines who were not expecting them to be charged when the power was out. The statement about them being hard to use, is quite the understatement. OSHA, written in blood. 172.70.115.103

How can soup be bland? There are bland soups, spicy soups, sweet soups, savory soups ... you can't call an entire very broad category of food "bland" like that. It makes no sense.Nitpicking (talk) 11:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I think they may have meant bland as in boring, not tasteless. I'll tweak it. Barmar (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Citation format needed. (heelies) 172.70.178.103 (talk) 12:57, 7 May 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Summary: (I don't know how to format correctly.) - no, you don't...

For a link to an external URL, writting [the_url] will give you a "linked number", but a better format is using [the_url text to replace] (with a space betwixt the URL and the text that will link to it. e.g. a link to google from [https://google.com a link to google].

There are full on citation/reference methods, but mostly I wouldn't bother with <cite> and <ref> tags at all.

Internal links, with [[]]s, and template-based ones, with {{}}s (e.g. the nicely-linking shortcut to wikipedia pages), use a pipe (the "|") between the sections. But you should be able to work that out by looking at what is already in the edit-source.

If in doubt, Preview your intended change and see if it looks right. I'll let you correct your contribution. Or whoever else wants to shake up the whole article, as it has multiple problems from spelling mistakes to inconsistent style to repeating information and it needs a lot of rationalising that I can't even think of doing right now. 172.69.195.113 14:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I didn't realize we actually have no citation templates. Quite a few pages have the actual citation needed template but not many of them ever get those citations. I think a lot of citations get put in just as external links. I probably should've done that but I was like oh I know how to do this from my small amount of Wikipedia editing, I'll just use the cite web template... oh we don't have that. So rather than just do an ad-hoc link I created the citation in my Wikipedia sandbox then manually recreated the formatting. But now it feels weird and out of character for this wiki so maybe someone should just change it to a link. idk, maybe being inconstant is exactly what is in-character for this wiki. Brycemw (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I changed it to a link. I've seen the occasional citations section in this wiki, iirc, but we general just do links :) Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

As a Columbus native, I am HIGHLY offended by this anti–rectangular pizza slice speech. Rectangular pizza is by far the BEST shape that a pizza can be. (I'm not really offended, but I really do think rectangular pizza is superior.) 108.162.216.229 14:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Sicilian pizza should be square and cut into square slices, Neapolitan pizza should be round and cut into sectors. The extra thickness of Sicilian means you don't eat it by holding the crust and folding, so the shape of the slices is less critical. But this does mean that the middle slices have no crust around the edges. Barmar (talk) 16:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Leaded gasoline isn't to reduce *noise*. The noise is a symptom of detonation (aka knock), which is the real problem. Knock is caused by pressures and temperatures high enough and for long enough to detonate the fuel/air mixture (as opposed to the deflagration initiated by the spark plug at a set time), and can result in engine damage. Leaded gasoline (through complicated chemistry) increases the pressure/temperature required to get that detonation, and thus allows the engine to be designed to run at higher temperatures and compression ratios, which is where the efficiency improvements come from. 172.70.39.41 14:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe, cross-reference "Sliced bread" to 1065:_Shoes and 1885:_Ensemble_Model (with sliced bread in both comic and title-text).

I think that the phrase "best thing since a sliced bread" refers to sliced bread in general (as opposed to eating the bread directly or tearing pieces of it) and not specifically bread pre-sliced before buying.

Also, heat pumps, whole not DESIGNED to heat by itself, actually have a limit for how big difference in temperature they can operate in. Outside this limit, they work quite badly and only by heating by itself.

Finally, soup is GREAT idea. -- Hkmaly (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, why is soup in the middle? Psychoticpotato (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Did some grammar editing. Nothing too drastic, just fixing some too-lengthy phrases and misspelled words. Psychoticpotato (talk) 20:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Extension cords with prongs at both ends are actually a even worse than what's currently on this wiki. There's a list of other issues here, which I'm not sure how well I can sum up within a reasonable amount of space. Stuff like feeding power back into the electrical grid putting electricians working on the grid at risk, or dealing with the exhaust from the household generators the cables usually come with. There's all sorts of reasons why major stores refused to manufacture or sell these, but for some reason they've become shockingly common. NickNackGus (talk) 02:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

"...they've become shockingly common." Good pun. OR That would have been a good pun, had it been intended. 172.70.160.166 10:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

No Pun Intended (does that hotlink?) Edit: cool, it does. Psychoticpotato (talk) 12:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Photochromic lenses are also bad for night vision: “...the optical transmission of the lenses was no more than 80% efficient and, taking into account all of the other known factors, was probably less at the time of the accident. This compares to 94.7% and 99.4% optical transmittance of ordinary uncoated and coated lenses, respectively.” – At least that was the conclusion of UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch for a particular set of glasses worn by the bridge lookout. 162.158.95.9 12:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

You cannot get a fungal infection from mold. SDSpivey (talk) 13:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)