Talk:2546: Fiction vs Nonfiction

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Doris Kearns Goodwin also mentioned in https://xkcd.com/2160/ 172.70.174.35 05:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Why "Boba Fett's Gadgets and How He Got Them" is not described? It is clearly a mix of sort-of-facts - description of Fett's gadgets and how artists designed them, and fiction stories of how he got them. -- [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]]) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

well, it could also be a list of what the gadgets are in-universe and the stories of how he got them, which is non-fiction in the star wars universe but fiction in real life. 172.70.34.91 16:47, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Bumpf


(Edit comment) "Bobba Fett's armor is definitely Beskar, as shown in the Mandalorian season 2. However, there are conflicting official star wars publications that mention his armor being durasteel. The commonly accepted solution is that it is an alloy of both."... Or a composite laminate/overlay. Like Stormtrooper armor has a layer of Explodium on the inside, hence how Rebel gunshots are so incapacitating to them. 172.70.85.155 09:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Nope, they're made of "implodium" otherwise someone else might get hurt. SDSpivey (talk) 16:02, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Could we call it Meta fiction or Meta nonfiction? 172.70.178.161

What's the context here—a library? And has anybody asked Doris Kearns Goodwin whether she has such a work in some stage of preparation? Yngvadottir (talk) 22:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

"Fictional" is very hard word to use. Consider the phrase "fictional character". Character means a person in a novel, play, film etc. If the novel is fiction, the person is also fictional ... but it is fictional character? What's fictional on it being a character (fact) in real (fact) book? Or another example: Red Book of Westmarch. This is real book in fictional universe. Is it fictional book? But wait, its content is basically same as Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, real books in real universe. -- Hkmaly (talk) 23:33, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Hadn't read this before making my edit in one spot, of using "Fictitious". Maybe that helps, maybe it doesn't. 162.158.159.29 03:15, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Also, in a fictional story featuring a version of a real person, is the person in that story real or fictional? 162.158.159.43 17:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
The Explain XKCD commentary refers to "the original Star Wars" of 1977 vintage, however the first released Star Wars media item was a book, in 1976. The film came later. From Wikipedia, Star Wars page: "The novelization of the film was published as Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker in December 1976, six months before the film was released. The credited author was George Lucas, but the book was revealed to have been ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster. Marketing director Charles Lippincott secured the deal with Del Rey Books to publish the novelization in November 1976. By February 1977, a half million copies had been sold.[7]" So technically the "original Star Wars" is 1976 and was not a film. Reference to 1977 original should state "original film".

I actually saw Randall at a Doris Kearns Goodwin event in Western Massachusetts the Sunday before this! -- [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]]) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Related to this... I'm not the person who got edited out here but I think the intention by them was that DKG certainly is real, while I assume the editer-out thought it was the how-and-why as a whole that was 'questioned'. Still, if it's confusing, yeah maybe best not given the faux-CN tag. 172.70.85.41 22:25, 29 November 2021 (UTC)