Talk:2621: Mainly Known For

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Title text: the movies are Star Wars, 1) Keira Knightly starred as one of the handmaidens of Padme, 2) The Land Before Time had George Lucas as executive producer 3) The guy from Jurassic Park and Ghostwriter is Samuel L. Jackson 4) Billie Lourd's mom is Carrie Fisher.-- 04:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

The hard part must have been finding out that she did script work, because she is not credited for this even on IMDb... I would like a citation for that actually, rather than the silly ones that was in the explanation at this time. --Kynde (talk) 12:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Re. John Lennon/Ringo Starr: Could one make the argument that the whole Beatles section is further proof of Megan's tendencies because Ringo is widely cited as the least famous and recognisable of the Beatles, meaning that the fact that she mentions him before the probably much more famous Paul McCartney and George Harrison is also misjudging who the Beatles are mainly known for consisting of??

Agree that this could be mentioned --Kynde (talk) 12:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Being the "least famous Beatle" still makes him one of the most famous people in the world. You have to go to Pete Best, the original drummer he replaced, to have a Beatle that isn't known by most most people. I also think Ringo may have been more well known during the Beatles' heyday, as he seemed to be more vocal in interviews than George Harrison, who was the "quiet one". He didn't have as big a solo career as the others after the breakup, but that's also a high bar. Barmar (talk) 13:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
It's not just whether he's the least well known of the four, though. Apparently, to Megan, he's more well known than Lennon, who is certainly the most well-known of them to the rest of the world. 13:41, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Without having read the above (Barmar), I recently added in the George detail myself. I mean, personally, I found Ringo more memorable than George (individually, but also a hint of "the Fab four are John, Paul, ummm.... And Ringo!" as Mr Starkey's nick-/stage-name is so much more distinctive).
Ringo continued(/ues) to perform beyond the Beatles, and not just as drummer, far more than George who did perform but seemed to move into behind-the-scenes Producer-like and/or financially backing roles for classic/cult-classic projects like Life Of Brian/Time Bandits.
I think George's impact on the Beatles, and beyond, was not at all small but was generally less prominent (except maybe for his Bangladesh fundraising/etc) than Ringo who managed to be front-of-house, in various capacities, a lot more. Not quite to the level of Paul (his only current active 'competition', given that the others in the running succumbed to mortality) but his innate firstname-recognition certainly leaves him not far behind. 15:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Paul? George? Put me as another person who knows only Lennon and Ringo. Also note that someone who has interest in movies but much less interest in music, remembering singers by what movies they starred in makes sense. Even remembering Jobs for Pixar would be at least consistent. Of course, then she doesn't know Star Wars by name or by one of most important characters in it ... while knowing someone who played in the last trilogy. -- Hkmaly (talk) 20:59, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Hang on. Hang ON. Is anybody seriously taking a "Paul McCartney? George Harrison? Yeah...? I've kind of heard of them, I guess?" kind of attitude?
Like, really? REALLY?!
Like..."Burger...'King,' I think? MacKenzies for a third-pounder Big Mac? Kentucky Fried Something? I think...or was it Tennessee? No, no, pretty sure it's Kentucky."
"That dude on the Buck: Jeff Washingburn, right?"
John, Paul, George and Ringo. Even if you don't care, you can't not know.Yorkshire Pudding (talk) 01:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
No, I unironically would not be able to tell you the third one. Lennon is The Beatle, McCartney I recognise but didn't realise was a Beatle for years, Ringo at least has a distinctive name but I might mistake him for a Marx Brother. Noaqiyeum (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Naming all the Beatles for the current generation is like naming all the Marx Brothers for their grandparents' generation. Fephisto (talk) 20:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
...Zeppo (best known for inspiring the prefix for 10-21 ), ...Gummo (went into confectionary marketting)... 20:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, Yorkshire, but I swear to God that I actually heard a couple of Gen-Zers talking to one another about Paul McCartney for some reason, and one of them, in all seriousness, said to the other, "Did you know that he was in a band before 'Wings'?" RAGBRAIvet (talk) 16:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I heard the "Wings" joke at least twenty years ago and have used it myself in jest. 23:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
If that really happened, the Gen-Zers were putting you on. For someone to be more familiar with Wings than the Beatles, they would probably have to have been born between the mid-1960s (and thus been too young to have experienced Beatle fandom while the band was active) and the early 1970s (and thus been old enough to have been aware of Wings while it was an active band). People somewhat younger than that might know McCartney as a solo artist in the 1980s, but as the Beatles had much more of a legacy than Wings, those born in the mid-1970s and after would be much more familiar with the Beatles than with Wings (unless they grew up with an older sibling or parent with unusually pro-Wings musical tastes). Generation Z-ers weren't born before the mid-1990s. Your Gen-Zers would have been at least 25 years too young to know Wings better than the Beatles. -- 06:25, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Speaking as a Gen-Zer (although I may be biased because of my taste in music), I can confirm that I know and have known since childhood all 4 members of the Beatles. Trogdor147 (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Question in general, but don't know where to ask: why are panels 1, 2 and 4 boxed off, and is 3 open? Going back in time, the first example I found where a panel is not boxed off, is Health Stats, in which it's also the 3rd one that is open... 10:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

No it is relatively common, but something that I strive to mention when it happens, as it is a defining characteristic of those comics where it occurs. I'm not sure I have used the same wording every time, but searching for in a frameless panel I got 35 results from other comics transcripts. So Randall uses this on a regular basis. --Kynde (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
I think it's a nice stylistic choice. 'Borderless' frames that are defined by the borders of adjacent frames (usually to left and right, but occasionally above and below rather than the 'virtual' boundary that is the natural continuation of the margin betwixt image-edge and adjacent explicit frame-edges) give a sense of openness where strict 'each cell is bounded' could be seen as claustrophobic and wasteful of actual comic real-estate.
And it's done quite a bit, yes. Maybe the reason you ( hadn't noticed it was just that it was so naturally done? Consider it yet another reason to browse back through old comics, just to pick up these little quirks. Like the peculiar "TH"-kerning which is another Randallesque bit of idiosynchratic penmanship, etc. ;) 15:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
You DO know who Michael Jordan is, right?
Sure I do! Space Jam. Fephisto (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Seconding that. -- Hkmaly (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
He was that guy who's name is like the actor that was in Space Jam 2 for a little bit, right?
He's that footwear designer for Nike. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 02:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Are you folks talking about that guy who ran a summer basketball camp for Chicago suburban elementary school kids at Elmhurst College around 1990? He tripped over me once while I was working painting dorms. 20:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't follow sports other than baseball. I can recall two actual moments like this in my life. Once was when I was flipping channels and saw footage of Shaq actually playing basketball. The other was connecting the name "Peyton Manning" to that guy I've been seeing in all those commercials. Bonus: My mom picked out a car from a dealership owned by "some baseball player." (Mike Piazza). Being that I actually do enjoy baseball, that seemed silly, but then realized I was just as bad when it came to the other sports! 15:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

This may be too much of a stretch, but calling Samuel Jackson "the guy from Jurassic Park" may be an oblique reference to Epic Rap Battles of History, Steven Spielberg vs Alfred Hitchcock - where at one point, Tarantino's lyrics are "Ask anybody, 'What's your favorite Sam Jackson part?' No-one's gonna say 'What's his name from Jurassic Park?'" 05:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

"He in a band with Ringo from Shining Time Station." "Who is John Lennon?" GreatWyrmGold (talk) 17:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Uh, I never watched Shining Time Station (I'm too old), but I've seen snippets (this is the first I hear Ringo was only one season), as I recall Ringo wasn't merely a voice, he was fully on it, just depicted as tiny, right? NiceGuy1 (talk) 04:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

This Jobs guy, that’s the dude who helped design NeXTStep right? 20:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Labyrinth guy. Wait. That’s the guy who sang a duet one time with the guy who played the Javert-inspired cop from Freejack. I think he might have been in a vampire movie once with the chick who was also in that one movie with Barry Bostwick and the guy who also played Poet Man in the second episode of Lexx. You know, the Earth 2 villain. Anyway the movie I mean (not the vampire one) is the one that has basically the same plot as The Black Hole. It had that one guy who did a bunch of songs written by the guy who was executive producer on the Sisters of Mercy Floodland album. 21:12, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

True story: I just now asked my husband, “Who is David Bowie?” and he replied, “he’s the guy who sang ‘Little Drummer Boy’ with Bing Crosby.” But I shouldn’t make fun of him, I once wanted to refer to Richard Dawson and couldn’t remember his name, so said, “the guy who played the game show host in ‘The Running Man’” 14:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

How does the Streisand effect relate to this comic? -- 06:15, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I found a perfect example of this online:

Hold up…you’re excited to meet Martin Short, and your default reference is the Santa Clause 3?!?

That’s like meeting @MarkHamill

and being excited because he was in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (good movie, but still)

Solomon (talk) 05:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)