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| date = November 7, 2005 | | date = November 7, 2005 | ||
| title = Donner | | title = Donner | ||
| + | | before = <big><big><span class="plainlinks">[https://web.archive.org/web/20060529063505/http://xkcd-drawings.livejournal.com/?skip=20#:~:text=Monday%27s%20Drawing%20%2D%20Donner Original title</span>]: '''Monday's Drawing - Donner'''</big></big> | ||
| image = donner.jpg | | image = donner.jpg | ||
| titletext = Some people haven't heard of the Donner Party. They were pioneers who got stranded and likely resorted to cannibalism. | | titletext = Some people haven't heard of the Donner Party. They were pioneers who got stranded and likely resorted to cannibalism. | ||
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==Explanation== | ==Explanation== | ||
| − | The | + | This was the twenty-ninth comic originally posted to [[LiveJournal]]. The previous one was [[27: Meat Cereals]], and the next one was [[34: Flowers]]. |
| − | In this comic, three Donner party members arrive at Joe's restaurant, where they have ordered a table for four, as given by the fact that the {{w|Maître d'hôtel|maître d'}} knows they are the Donner party and calls for a party of four. The three decline the table since they are already full. This suggests that they just have eaten the fourth member (unknown to us) of their party after they placed the order for a table at the restaurant, but before they strolled over to it anyway. | + | The {{w|Donner party}} was a group of pioneers who set out west along a new route that was supposed to be easier to travel, but ultimately proved slow and treacherous. They became trapped in the Sierra Nevada mountains, and many died. It is believed that many of the pioneers, low on food, resorted to cannibalism, eating the bodies of party members who had already died. In this comic, three Donner party members arrive at Joe's restaurant, where they have ordered a table for four, as given by the fact that the {{w|Maître d'hôtel|maître d'}} knows they are the Donner party and calls for a party of four. The three decline the table since they are already full. This suggests that they just have eaten the fourth member (unknown to us) of their party after they placed the order for a table at the restaurant, but before they strolled over to it anyway. Of course, since they are not in a survival situation in this comic, cannibalism would be completely unnecessary. However, it may be possible that they are suffering from {{w|Wendigo|Wendigo Psychosis}}. Alternatively, the Donner Dinner Party may have resorted to cannibalism because it took so long to be seated at the restaurant. |
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==Transcript== | ==Transcript== | ||
| − | :[Three people stand outside a restaurant; Megan, a man with some hair and another shorter person, probably a woman. There is a sign above the door which says "Joe's" (presumably the name of the restaurant) and a menu next to it. Outside the door, there is a maître d' with a cap behind a lectern. There is a sign on the lectern which says "Eat in".] | + | :[Three people stand outside a restaurant; Megan, a man with some hair (who looks like Hairy) and another shorter person, probably a woman. There is a sign above the door which says "Joe's" (presumably the name of the restaurant) and a menu next to it. Outside the door, there is a maître d' with a cap behind a lectern. There is a sign on the lectern which says "Eat in".] |
:maître d': Donner, party of four? | :maître d': Donner, party of four? | ||
:Man: Actually, never mind. | :Man: Actually, never mind. | ||
:Megan: We're full. | :Megan: We're full. | ||
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{{comic discussion}} | {{comic discussion}} | ||
[[Category:Posted on LiveJournal| 29]] | [[Category:Posted on LiveJournal| 29]] | ||
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[[Category:Checkered paper]] | [[Category:Checkered paper]] | ||
[[Category:Comics featuring Megan]] | [[Category:Comics featuring Megan]] | ||
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Latest revision as of 09:27, 20 August 2024
| Donner |
| Original title: Monday's Drawing - Donner |
 Title text: Some people haven't heard of the Donner Party. They were pioneers who got stranded and likely resorted to cannibalism. |
Explanation[edit]
This was the twenty-ninth comic originally posted to LiveJournal. The previous one was 27: Meat Cereals, and the next one was 34: Flowers.
The Donner party was a group of pioneers who set out west along a new route that was supposed to be easier to travel, but ultimately proved slow and treacherous. They became trapped in the Sierra Nevada mountains, and many died. It is believed that many of the pioneers, low on food, resorted to cannibalism, eating the bodies of party members who had already died. In this comic, three Donner party members arrive at Joe's restaurant, where they have ordered a table for four, as given by the fact that the maître d' knows they are the Donner party and calls for a party of four. The three decline the table since they are already full. This suggests that they just have eaten the fourth member (unknown to us) of their party after they placed the order for a table at the restaurant, but before they strolled over to it anyway. Of course, since they are not in a survival situation in this comic, cannibalism would be completely unnecessary. However, it may be possible that they are suffering from Wendigo Psychosis. Alternatively, the Donner Dinner Party may have resorted to cannibalism because it took so long to be seated at the restaurant.
As with many of the earlier comics, the title text explains the joke rather than adding to it.
Transcript[edit]
- [Three people stand outside a restaurant; Megan, a man with some hair (who looks like Hairy) and another shorter person, probably a woman. There is a sign above the door which says "Joe's" (presumably the name of the restaurant) and a menu next to it. Outside the door, there is a maître d' with a cap behind a lectern. There is a sign on the lectern which says "Eat in".]
- maître d': Donner, party of four?
- Man: Actually, never mind.
- Megan: We're full.
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The indication is that they were waiting a long time for the table and decided to eat one of their companions. -- 64.85.162.210 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- So you think that's why Kramer is missing from that episode? 108.162.219.58 01:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Outside of the obvious pointed out by the previous user: the restaurant, Joe's, could be a reference to Tex Avery's Eat at Joe's. In one of the episodes, the customers were eaten by 'Joe'. The cannibalism scenario works out as well. Torappu (talk) 18:48, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
- I feel that it may not have been intended by Randall, but a good pickup nonetheless. 108.162.219.58 01:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
I disagree with the original interpretation. The party of three was, I believe, more likely concerned by an additional, undepicted party, also waiting to eat at the establishment, and possibly fearing for their own safety from said cannibalism.--StrangerDanger (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Clearly you are incorrect. 108.162.219.58 01:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
My interpretation - after reading the above explanation - is that the Donner was a party of four, who had preordered a table at Joe. But when these three arrived, they had just eaten the fourth person (as a snack before leaving home...?) And then they realized that they are not really hungry anymore - when Joe asks them in. Joe obviously knows they are the Donner - and they do not deny this. (I originally wrote this on 8 October - before I today signed up with a user account - thus this edit). Kynde (talk) 11:29, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
My first interpretation was that "Donner" in the comic is intended to be an alternate spelling of doner, and the comic might be a reference to the classic urban legend that the shadier kind of doners are supposedly made of meat from animals not otherwise normally eaten (typically cats). But that doesn't explain the apparently real existence of the Donner party. --172.68.11.39 15:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
MY interpretation was simply that there was no Wendigo psychosis involved causing them to become cannibalistic, they just had such a long wait they figured it would be better to eat one of their own. SilverTheTerribleMathematician (talk) 06:01, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
