Difference between revisions of "Talk:2723: Outdated Periodic Table"
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::Maybe they considered the Pro, II, III, 4, etc. just as isotopes (or alternate oxidation states!). | ::Maybe they considered the Pro, II, III, 4, etc. just as isotopes (or alternate oxidation states!). | ||
::Though then your criticism still applies to the Core brand (..., 2, i3, etc; although most of that range are clearly imaginary, as well as odd). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.75|162.158.159.75]] 19:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | ::Though then your criticism still applies to the Core brand (..., 2, i3, etc; although most of that range are clearly imaginary, as well as odd). [[Special:Contributions/162.158.159.75|162.158.159.75]] 19:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Because they didn't want to curse it.[[Special:Contributions/172.70.85.200|172.70.85.200]] 12:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
I have a science textbook at home that doesn't have ''any'' elements in a periodic table, though you'd think it should. It has a very nice ''list'' of elements (with dodgy details, e.g. I think at least one of them was later proven to be two separate but tricky to isolate elements), but was written prior to the popularisation of Mendeleev's table. (i.e. post-1869, but not by much!) Now, obviously, I don't want to diss Randall's humour, but I have so few such retro-geeky things I can brag about so I just wanted to mention this in passing. (Also, when I actually did my own chemistry, the lab wall had a PT on it that featured the element "{{w|Dubnium|Hahniun}}", and some others since replaced/resolved differently. I sometimes still forget myself and refer to the wrong names if I have to answer trivia questions about them ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.127|172.70.91.127]] 23:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | I have a science textbook at home that doesn't have ''any'' elements in a periodic table, though you'd think it should. It has a very nice ''list'' of elements (with dodgy details, e.g. I think at least one of them was later proven to be two separate but tricky to isolate elements), but was written prior to the popularisation of Mendeleev's table. (i.e. post-1869, but not by much!) Now, obviously, I don't want to diss Randall's humour, but I have so few such retro-geeky things I can brag about so I just wanted to mention this in passing. (Also, when I actually did my own chemistry, the lab wall had a PT on it that featured the element "{{w|Dubnium|Hahniun}}", and some others since replaced/resolved differently. I sometimes still forget myself and refer to the wrong names if I have to answer trivia questions about them ) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.91.127|172.70.91.127]] 23:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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After an edit, I was left with <code>and adding an -[LINEWRAP HERE]ium at the end</code>, at least on my display (may depend on browser/display width, etc). If I adjusted the to bring the characters away from the line-wrap point then it could just break again whenever/wherever it found itself back in the same bit of the screen again, so I tried to quote it, but got <code>and adding an "-[LINEWRAP HERE]ium" at the end</code> anyway. If anyone can recall how to implement a 'non-breaking ''non-''space' character, or perhaps wishes to aplly a whole wrap-preventing enclosing tag, then I invite them to apply it there. Assuming it isn't edited out of existence, already, and making the issue moot. ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.222|172.70.162.222]] 16:27, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | After an edit, I was left with <code>and adding an -[LINEWRAP HERE]ium at the end</code>, at least on my display (may depend on browser/display width, etc). If I adjusted the to bring the characters away from the line-wrap point then it could just break again whenever/wherever it found itself back in the same bit of the screen again, so I tried to quote it, but got <code>and adding an "-[LINEWRAP HERE]ium" at the end</code> anyway. If anyone can recall how to implement a 'non-breaking ''non-''space' character, or perhaps wishes to aplly a whole wrap-preventing enclosing tag, then I invite them to apply it there. Assuming it isn't edited out of existence, already, and making the issue moot. ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.70.162.222|172.70.162.222]] 16:27, 12 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Replaced the hyphen with a non-breaking hyphen --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.130.54|172.71.130.54]] 16:22, 21 February 2023 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Would this shape of periodic table (with helium separated from lithium and beryllium) make sense before atoms existed? Would researchers from T+90 minutes even see "periods" as a useful way to organize elements? [[Special:Contributions/172.69.156.159|172.69.156.159]] 15:04, 13 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I wouldn't say no life ''imaginable'' could exist half an hour after the Big Bang. Stephen Baxter has written stories with civilizations existing before the inflationary period. --[[Special:Contributions/162.158.91.36|162.158.91.36]] 07:46, 15 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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+ | This comic was a joke, but this is actually how NCERT textbooks are. The most recent edition is 2006. Link: https://ncert.nic.in/textbook.php |
Latest revision as of 16:22, 21 February 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_nucleosynthesis BBN did only produce unstable Berylium-7 with a half-life of 53.22 days. Thus after 30 minutes there was still plenty of Be-7 left. --172.71.160.38 15:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
"unnilium" is a reference to "unnilunium", which was the name for Mendelevium (atomic number 101; from "un nil un", 1-0-1) before it was given a formal name. Therefore the 6th new element referenced, on top of the 4 already in the table, would be #10, or "un nil", or unnilium. 172.71.190.132
"Pentium" was also the first non-numeric name for the Intel family. Before that, it was the 80486/i486. 172.70.134.195 16:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Then they chickened out and didn't called the next CPU hexium. -- Hkmaly (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe they considered the Pro, II, III, 4, etc. just as isotopes (or alternate oxidation states!).
- Though then your criticism still applies to the Core brand (..., 2, i3, etc; although most of that range are clearly imaginary, as well as odd). 162.158.159.75 19:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Because they didn't want to curse it.172.70.85.200 12:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I have a science textbook at home that doesn't have any elements in a periodic table, though you'd think it should. It has a very nice list of elements (with dodgy details, e.g. I think at least one of them was later proven to be two separate but tricky to isolate elements), but was written prior to the popularisation of Mendeleev's table. (i.e. post-1869, but not by much!) Now, obviously, I don't want to diss Randall's humour, but I have so few such retro-geeky things I can brag about so I just wanted to mention this in passing. (Also, when I actually did my own chemistry, the lab wall had a PT on it that featured the element "Hahniun", and some others since replaced/resolved differently. I sometimes still forget myself and refer to the wrong names if I have to answer trivia questions about them ) 172.70.91.127 23:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- It's a proleptic periodic table Sabik (talk)
- Indeed, but your comment now makes me wonder what a pre-lepton table would look like. ;) 172.70.85.200 10:00, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Is there a category for comics about the Periodic Table? I recall one from a year or so ago where the symbols were replaced with ones based on the modern names for the elements. Barmar (talk) 05:29, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think you mean 2639:_Periodic_Table_Changes. --172.70.242.156 06:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
After an edit, I was left with and adding an -[LINEWRAP HERE]ium at the end
, at least on my display (may depend on browser/display width, etc). If I adjusted the to bring the characters away from the line-wrap point then it could just break again whenever/wherever it found itself back in the same bit of the screen again, so I tried to quote it, but got and adding an "-[LINEWRAP HERE]ium" at the end
anyway. If anyone can recall how to implement a 'non-breaking non-space' character, or perhaps wishes to aplly a whole wrap-preventing enclosing tag, then I invite them to apply it there. Assuming it isn't edited out of existence, already, and making the issue moot. ;) 172.70.162.222 16:27, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Replaced the hyphen with a non-breaking hyphen --172.71.130.54 16:22, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Would this shape of periodic table (with helium separated from lithium and beryllium) make sense before atoms existed? Would researchers from T+90 minutes even see "periods" as a useful way to organize elements? 172.69.156.159 15:04, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I wouldn't say no life imaginable could exist half an hour after the Big Bang. Stephen Baxter has written stories with civilizations existing before the inflationary period. --162.158.91.36 07:46, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
This comic was a joke, but this is actually how NCERT textbooks are. The most recent edition is 2006. Link: https://ncert.nic.in/textbook.php