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+ | About three years ago, I stumbled across this comic during an xkcd re-read, and I immediately thought "Hey, the small business I work for could make GREAT use of Dropbox!" Today, my boss says that bringing Dropbox to her business is one of the best ideas I've ever had. [[User:Boct1584|Boct1584]] ([[User talk:Boct1584|talk]]) 01:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC) | ||
+ | : ''Dropbox'' suxx because exist several E2EE for privacy cloud storage, or ''NextCloud'' can be selfhosted. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.146|108.162.221.146]] 19:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
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Years ago the usb drive was a floppy disc and the transfer was called "sneaker net". | Years ago the usb drive was a floppy disc and the transfer was called "sneaker net". | ||
This "solution" is much, much older than the web. | This "solution" is much, much older than the web. | ||
Also, why would TBL shed a tear? What's an HTML server got to do with file sharing? Do you think Randall meant Tommy Flowers?{{unsigned|188.29.119.251}} | Also, why would TBL shed a tear? What's an HTML server got to do with file sharing? Do you think Randall meant Tommy Flowers?{{unsigned|188.29.119.251}} | ||
:You are right. I deleted the sentence about Tim Berners-Lee, because the comic shows a perfectly legitimate use of the internet: transferring a 25 Mb file, which is much complicated than it should be. [[User:Xhfz|Xhfz]] ([[User talk:Xhfz|talk]]) 21:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC) | :You are right. I deleted the sentence about Tim Berners-Lee, because the comic shows a perfectly legitimate use of the internet: transferring a 25 Mb file, which is much complicated than it should be. [[User:Xhfz|Xhfz]] ([[User talk:Xhfz|talk]]) 21:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
+ | :He wasn't really right, and the title text should still be explained. I have done so. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.223|108.162.219.223]] 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
Just split the file into two pieces and send them in two emails. [[Special:Contributions/123.24.93.198|123.24.93.198]] 10:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC) | Just split the file into two pieces and send them in two emails. [[Special:Contributions/123.24.93.198|123.24.93.198]] 10:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
+ | :With a chisel? Not everybody has a chisel around the house, these days. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.223|108.162.219.223]] 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | Actually Dropbox has [https://www.dropbox.com/home a web interface], you don't need to download any program. Still, both need to have Dropbox account. --[[User:JakubNarebski|JakubNarebski]] ([[User talk:JakubNarebski|talk]]) 15:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Yes. Yes, you do. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.223|108.162.219.223]] 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Guys, dropbox supports link-sharing, for users without an account. Although, that feature probably wasn't around at the time this comic | ||
+ | was written. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.73|173.245.55.73]] 02:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Although those neccessarily need either a password or are just kinda insecure because it's on the open internet. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.170.65|162.158.170.65]] 12:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Duke: I THINK that the TIM BERNERS LEE part is not just to do with the protocols. If you had to send it to your friend's laptop , you *could* mail it your friends email id rather than to yourself, essentially using the email service in the *right* manner. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.81.237|141.101.81.237]] 07:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :After all these years I stumbled only now upon this note in Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV WebDAV] article: | ||
+ | :<q>Tim Berners-Lee's original vision of the Web involved a medium for both reading and writing. In fact, Berners-Lee's first web browser, called WorldWideWeb, could both view and edit web pages.</q> | ||
+ | :So Tim Berners-Lee was imaging an interactive web when he invented html and http, instead of the static "web 1.0", which came alive. In his envisioned web, people probably would have uploaded a file to a webpage directly, instead of using the web-interfaces of email providers or services like Dropbox, which are complicated work-arounds to achieve the same thing. [[User:Enkidu|Enkidu]] ([[User talk:Enkidu|talk]]) 11:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Hah, now we have darkhttp. Just download and install (a matter of seconds), execute (give root-of-to-share folder) and forward the ports on your router (2mins max). This should be rather easy :-). Alternatives could be also tftp etc. Or send something via GDrive^^[[Special:Contributions/108.162.253.174|108.162.253.174]] 10:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :"forward the ports on your router" isn't "2mins max" if your ISP puts its residential subscribers behind [[wikipedia:Carrier-grade NAT|carrier-grade network address translation]]. For many, the only way out from behind CGNAT is to lease a static IP, and even for that, some ISPs require a commercially zoned service address. --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 16:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I'm surprised they didn't just use bittorrent. It's such a simple and easy way to transfer files. [[User:The Cat Lady|-- The Cat Lady]] ([[User talk:The Cat Lady|talk]]) 00:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
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+ | True as it ever was. My grandfather was sending someone an MP3 of a radio show. Too large for email, WeTransfer wouldn't work, GDrive upload failed, ended up putting it on a USB stick and posting. --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.26|172.70.90.26]] 22:40, 23 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
− | + | : Tell your grandparents they can use simple ''anonymous'' filesharing website even E2EE for privacy: https://geekflare.com/secure-file-sharing/ — perhaps ''File.Pizza'' is the best for extralarge files because of P2P. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.221.146|108.162.221.146]] 19:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 19:56, 18 December 2023
About three years ago, I stumbled across this comic during an xkcd re-read, and I immediately thought "Hey, the small business I work for could make GREAT use of Dropbox!" Today, my boss says that bringing Dropbox to her business is one of the best ideas I've ever had. Boct1584 (talk) 01:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Dropbox suxx because exist several E2EE for privacy cloud storage, or NextCloud can be selfhosted. 108.162.221.146 19:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Years ago the usb drive was a floppy disc and the transfer was called "sneaker net". This "solution" is much, much older than the web. Also, why would TBL shed a tear? What's an HTML server got to do with file sharing? Do you think Randall meant Tommy Flowers? -- 188.29.119.251 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- You are right. I deleted the sentence about Tim Berners-Lee, because the comic shows a perfectly legitimate use of the internet: transferring a 25 Mb file, which is much complicated than it should be. Xhfz (talk) 21:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- He wasn't really right, and the title text should still be explained. I have done so. 108.162.219.223 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Just split the file into two pieces and send them in two emails. 123.24.93.198 10:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- With a chisel? Not everybody has a chisel around the house, these days. 108.162.219.223 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Actually Dropbox has a web interface, you don't need to download any program. Still, both need to have Dropbox account. --JakubNarebski (talk) 15:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. Yes, you do. 108.162.219.223 20:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Guys, dropbox supports link-sharing, for users without an account. Although, that feature probably wasn't around at the time this comic was written. 173.245.55.73 02:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Although those neccessarily need either a password or are just kinda insecure because it's on the open internet. 162.158.170.65 12:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Duke: I THINK that the TIM BERNERS LEE part is not just to do with the protocols. If you had to send it to your friend's laptop , you *could* mail it your friends email id rather than to yourself, essentially using the email service in the *right* manner. 141.101.81.237 07:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
- After all these years I stumbled only now upon this note in Wikipedia's WebDAV article:
Tim Berners-Lee's original vision of the Web involved a medium for both reading and writing. In fact, Berners-Lee's first web browser, called WorldWideWeb, could both view and edit web pages.
- So Tim Berners-Lee was imaging an interactive web when he invented html and http, instead of the static "web 1.0", which came alive. In his envisioned web, people probably would have uploaded a file to a webpage directly, instead of using the web-interfaces of email providers or services like Dropbox, which are complicated work-arounds to achieve the same thing. Enkidu (talk) 11:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Hah, now we have darkhttp. Just download and install (a matter of seconds), execute (give root-of-to-share folder) and forward the ports on your router (2mins max). This should be rather easy :-). Alternatives could be also tftp etc. Or send something via GDrive^^108.162.253.174 10:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- "forward the ports on your router" isn't "2mins max" if your ISP puts its residential subscribers behind carrier-grade network address translation. For many, the only way out from behind CGNAT is to lease a static IP, and even for that, some ISPs require a commercially zoned service address. --Tepples (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm surprised they didn't just use bittorrent. It's such a simple and easy way to transfer files. -- The Cat Lady (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
True as it ever was. My grandfather was sending someone an MP3 of a radio show. Too large for email, WeTransfer wouldn't work, GDrive upload failed, ended up putting it on a USB stick and posting. --172.70.90.26 22:40, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Tell your grandparents they can use simple anonymous filesharing website even E2EE for privacy: https://geekflare.com/secure-file-sharing/ — perhaps File.Pizza is the best for extralarge files because of P2P. 108.162.221.146 19:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC)