Talk:2965: Chili Tornado Quake

for some reason I always feel nervous providing an initial transcript like I'm gonna do the format wrong but nah this transcript is pretty simple, would be hard to get it very wrong - Vaedez (talk) 04:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

No need to worry cause it can always be changed. I have tweaked the transcript a bit. --Kynde (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

wait--is the titletext missing a "due"? - Vaedez (talk) 04:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I think so, yeah. First time I've seen Randall make a mistake in the alt text. 162.158.137.212 04:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I have seen this several times, and sometimes he fixed it later. I have added this to a trivia section. If it is changed, it should still be mentioned there, but of course updated with the original mistake instead. --Kynde (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Funnily enough, an earthquake large enough to shake the house occurred near me today! No chili peppers and definitely no tornadoes nearby, (un)fortunately. 162.158.91.92 04:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Wonder how the scales combine. Given that Richter and Fujita are both single digit numbers (well, Richter can go above 10, but normally only when Roland Emmerich is directing), they would be pretty meaningless in an additive scale, so I would assume multiplicative. If so, the amount of damage to the building suggests relatively mild peppers.RegularSizedGuy (talk) 04:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

what if it's like a geometric mean or smth? that feels like it makes more sense than additive and it would also allow the average pepper involved in the incident to be higher than the 55k listed - Vaedez (talk) 04:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I believe the only method that makes sense is multiplying. Since spicy can go to 0, then 2000-3000 is probably still pretty strong for most people? Anyway, it may have been a smaller earthquake and not that big a tornado, maybe 3 and 6 then it alt least get above 3000. I have added these considerations to the explanation. --Kynde (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

No method makes 'sense' - the whole comic aspect is that it makes no sense to combine these scales in the first place. Given that, I think the question is unanswerable, since it would require knowledge of a non-existent purpose that the scale is trying to achieve.172.69.43.175 14:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

3000 is a low-end jalapeno, even a serrano is about 10k. Habanero is a couple of 100k. Would it be complete scientific abomination to take Fujita/Richter as additive and then multiply the result by scoville? 172.69.43.167 13:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I could have sworn Randall already made this joke... Maybe I'm thinking of 1531. 172.69.60.147 05:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

on the current state of the trivia section, i'm pretty sure we're not supposed to have opaque links that say "here" and have some comic they go to and that the structure of the sentence should be more like "in [comic x] randal also...", but i'm too tired to phrase it out rn and not entirely sure of this either - Vaedez (talk) 08:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree and also we usually do not make a trivia section to link to relevant comics so I moved it into the explanation. --Kynde (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Is it relevant that Twisters just came out a couple weeks ago? Barmar (talk) 12:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Though I agree that a multiplicative compound unit is most likely (unlike the additive Erdős–Bacon one, and further variations), it's worth noting that you can have F0 tornados, zero (as well as negative) in the Richter scale and/or 0 Scoville peppers (though the latter less likely, here). If either of the first two are counted as zero, they stil exist, but means that any (finite) values attributed to the remaining measure would never produce a combined unit that is non-zero. So you probably have to lower-limit the Tornado measurement and ensure the Earthquake one is >0 to back-calculate any sensible Pepper value. If done as per the EB method, though, it just means that the source Scoville number is pretty much the whole contributor to the resulting sum (even if itçs an F5 with a 10 on the Ricbter scale, it's just 15 less than the merged value). Geptetic meandrians, aside, there are few other 'logical' functions between these three source values and the combo-evaluation, but many that might stretch plausibility. 172.68.186.90 13:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)