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This is clearly based on Lewis Carroll's Sylvie and Bruno Concluded (1893) which discusses a map made at a scale of 1:1. [[User:Take The A Train To Watertown|Take The A Train To Watertown]] ([[User talk:Take The A Train To Watertown|talk]]) 22:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 
This is clearly based on Lewis Carroll's Sylvie and Bruno Concluded (1893) which discusses a map made at a scale of 1:1. [[User:Take The A Train To Watertown|Take The A Train To Watertown]] ([[User talk:Take The A Train To Watertown|talk]]) 22:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
  
Which latitude of Greenland is 1660miles across? I'm noodling around and can find a spot in the northern part which is - more or less - 1660*km* wide, but nothing close to that number in miles.
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Which latitude of Greenland is 1660miles across? I'm noodling around and can find a spot in the northern part which is - more or less - 1660*km* wide, but nothing close to that number in miles. {{unsigned ip|172.68.144.140|23:01, 25 March 2024}}
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Hmm. First time making a comment here, thought that the title text was referencing that the Mercator projection goes to infinity at the poles, and there would be a ring where the map’s unseen parts is 1:1 to the real world. {{unsigned ip|172.71.214.100|01:40, 26 March 2024}}
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Yeah, I think the explanation is wrong; there is a ring around the poles which is the same size on the map as it is in real life, because the mercader projection stretches it out. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.150.50|172.71.150.50]] 05:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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I'm amazed at how nitpickingly annoying Cueball can get with respect to mapmaking. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.134.38|162.158.134.38]] 08:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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"there is a ring around the poles which is the same size on the map"  - in standard Mercator projection 1m wide map would need to be kilomenters if not thousands km high to show 1m ring on poles. Usually cutout is at 80-85 latitude {{unsigned ip|162.158.102.110|12:12, 26 March 2024}}
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The latitude band would actually be one Earth's radius (6,378 km) high on the map. {{unsigned ip|172.69.223.158|12:36, 26 March 2024}}
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I'm slightly tempted to add a list of possible uses for a 1:1 scale map of the world.  All that I'm coming up with are essentially about its being a ginormous sheet of paper, with its being a ''map'' being irrelevant. [[User:BunsenH|BunsenH]] ([[User talk:BunsenH|talk]]) 17:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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:A replacement planet? Either flat (work out which mapping compromise would suit its population best) or get around the "no flat map can..." stuff by making it into an actual globe. You might need to break out artificial gravity equipment (and pursuade people not to wear sharp footwear?), or just take advantage of it being paper-thin, as well as no pesky uncrossable ocean (if you're allowed to 'step on blue') or awkward mountains (you can't actually trip on gradient lines/etc!), so the experience would be ....interesting. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.163.24|172.70.163.24]] 19:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Someone's building the world at 1:1 in Minecraft, does that count? Additionally, 1:1 maps of smaller things certainly do exist, though these are more usually called mockups or engineering diagrams. A 1:1 map of a mall was used in Better Call Saul to plot a heist, and sometimes historical sites have 1:1 maps of buildings and streets to show where they were once located. [[User:Take The A Train To Watertown|Take The A Train To Watertown]] ([[User talk:Take The A Train To Watertown|talk]]) 19:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Anyone else really wanting to know the radius for which the title text is true? I got 356'd Rxy (talk) 20:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

New life goal: Go to the poles, find the ring that is mapped to-scale, and color it. Require all satellite maps to be modified to add this stripe of color. PotatoGod (talk) 22:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

This is clearly based on Lewis Carroll's Sylvie and Bruno Concluded (1893) which discusses a map made at a scale of 1:1. Take The A Train To Watertown (talk) 22:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Which latitude of Greenland is 1660miles across? I'm noodling around and can find a spot in the northern part which is - more or less - 1660*km* wide, but nothing close to that number in miles. 172.68.144.140 (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Hmm. First time making a comment here, thought that the title text was referencing that the Mercator projection goes to infinity at the poles, and there would be a ring where the map’s unseen parts is 1:1 to the real world. 172.71.214.100 (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Yeah, I think the explanation is wrong; there is a ring around the poles which is the same size on the map as it is in real life, because the mercader projection stretches it out. 172.71.150.50 05:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm amazed at how nitpickingly annoying Cueball can get with respect to mapmaking. 162.158.134.38 08:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

"there is a ring around the poles which is the same size on the map" - in standard Mercator projection 1m wide map would need to be kilomenters if not thousands km high to show 1m ring on poles. Usually cutout is at 80-85 latitude 162.158.102.110 (talk) 12:12, 26 March 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

The latitude band would actually be one Earth's radius (6,378 km) high on the map. 172.69.223.158 (talk) 12:36, 26 March 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

I'm slightly tempted to add a list of possible uses for a 1:1 scale map of the world. All that I'm coming up with are essentially about its being a ginormous sheet of paper, with its being a map being irrelevant. BunsenH (talk) 17:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

A replacement planet? Either flat (work out which mapping compromise would suit its population best) or get around the "no flat map can..." stuff by making it into an actual globe. You might need to break out artificial gravity equipment (and pursuade people not to wear sharp footwear?), or just take advantage of it being paper-thin, as well as no pesky uncrossable ocean (if you're allowed to 'step on blue') or awkward mountains (you can't actually trip on gradient lines/etc!), so the experience would be ....interesting. 172.70.163.24 19:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Someone's building the world at 1:1 in Minecraft, does that count? Additionally, 1:1 maps of smaller things certainly do exist, though these are more usually called mockups or engineering diagrams. A 1:1 map of a mall was used in Better Call Saul to plot a heist, and sometimes historical sites have 1:1 maps of buildings and streets to show where they were once located. Take The A Train To Watertown (talk) 19:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)