Talk:3029: Sun Avoidance
My first time editing the BOT name. Barmar (talk) 01:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe change it to BOT GETTING NOTHING BUT SUNBURN FOR CHRISTMAS? 198.41.227.177 03:47, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Nothing for Christmas? xkcd has fallen Pie Guy (talk) 02:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comic 3000 didn't have anything special for it either. Lame! 172.70.210.68 03:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, Hannukah is the feast of lights, and Christians say Jesus is The Light, so it kind of fits. Kind of. 198.41.227.177 03:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well it is kind of sad when he doesn't post an x-mas comic. Maybe this achievement of Parker outshone x-mas (like the sun outshines) in Randall's view. But it only happens on a few years he completely misses the chance to acknowledge x-mas. ;-/ --Kynde (talk) 10:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have made a mention of the strange thing that this release was not about Christmas and also made several notes about in on the Category:Christmas. It is a 20 year and a ten in a row streak that ended at 19 and 9 for years in a row with x-mas comic at Chirstmas and times in a row when a 25th December release was about x-mas. --Kynde (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Given the election of 47 (Randall's opinion of which can be guessed), and its dependence on, and promises to, those who call themselves "Christians", Randall's silence about the holiday can perhaps be understood, and maybe accepted as a better option than screaming. There is an awful lot of "la la la ..." going on in the USA during this transition season ... rather like in Berlin in the year 1933 CE. 108.162.246.47 16:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have made a mention of the strange thing that this release was not about Christmas and also made several notes about in on the Category:Christmas. It is a 20 year and a ten in a row streak that ended at 19 and 9 for years in a row with x-mas comic at Chirstmas and times in a row when a 25th December release was about x-mas. --Kynde (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well it is kind of sad when he doesn't post an x-mas comic. Maybe this achievement of Parker outshone x-mas (like the sun outshines) in Randall's view. But it only happens on a few years he completely misses the chance to acknowledge x-mas. ;-/ --Kynde (talk) 10:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
XKCD wishes you a merry NOTHING and a happy new NOTHING. Hope you get lots of NOTHING this NOTHING! Remember to spend lots of NOTHING with your NOTHING! 172.70.211.233 03:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
"This would be difficult, since at Parker's aphelion (furthest distance from the Sun in its orbit) it's still only about 7 million km, 35 million km from Solar Orbiter's orbit (and the probes would be much further apart if they're not on the same side of the Sun at the time)." -- What does aligning the probes have to do with the title text? Isn't the nudge at the aphelion meant to lower the perihelion into the Sun? (and not have anything to do with the proximity of the two probes) --Sophon (talk) 05:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
This explanation is not correct: at aphelion (further's point to the sun) Parker's is close to Venus orbit (~100 million km). Solar Orbiter's perihelion (closest point to the sun) is well below Mercury's orbit. There will regularly be at the same distance from the sun but very likely on different sides of the sun making virtually impossible any interactions between them as suggested by the title text. --162.158.39.165 06:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ahhhh.. I (and perhaps others, like the comment currently immediately above?) had not properly understood the TT. Selective reading meant I had not realised that both probes were mentioned there, and that SO was therefore going to deflect PP (not either SO or PP changing their own orbit for themselves). Might need to edit something about that in... 172.70.163.130 16:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake. I misread Wikipedia, thinking that it said Parker's aphelion was 7.26 million km, when that was actually a previous perihelion. Barmar (talk) 20:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Would the top five of the Sun Avoidance leaderboard be Voyager 1, Voyager 2, Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, and New Horizons Take The A Train To Watertown (talk) 08:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- If they at any point got closer to the Sun than Earth ever is, they would end below all human missions on Earth. It do not say that it is space related missions. Also there are not that many missions to space and can be seen in the part of the number that are shown, and we cannot even see how big the actual number is... --Kynde (talk) 10:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- To directly answer the question, they may be 'more avoiding' the Sun right this moment, but their closest pass was all equally Earth-distant, due to coming from Earth.
- Assuming it's been checked that no further outer-planet-and-beyond missions used a slingshot into 'down orbit' from Earth, either for a particular pop back out to the right ejective up-orbit route or even to use a Venus-fly-by slingshot to enhance it. Otherwise, though, their location in the vicinity of Earth is their 'record worst', whatever they're doing now. Practically indistinguishable, in that regard, from Columbus (the sea-going one) or any Apollo mission. 172.70.163.130 16:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
"approximately 17 metric tons directly to an orbit crossing Mercury requires a rocket the size of the Saturn V stack. Parker masses about forty times that" so ~680 tonnes - pretty sure you're out by three orders of magnitude there, perhaps substitute 'kilograms' or 'kg' for 'metric tons'? 162.158.168.151 (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
