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| − | [[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w|grammar}} | + | [[Miss Lenhart]] is shown teaching a classroom about {{w|grammar}}, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. However, this comic shows how effective grammar is by comparing it with various other 'forms' of structure. Specifically, Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "''one'' of the most popular ways to structure a language". She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own endonyms: |
;Words order words random words words random good | ;Words order words random words words random good | ||
| − | :This alternate to grammar likely has very loose rules around structure, as it consists of simply stating words that relate directly to the idea being conveyed | + | :This alternate to grammar likely has very loose rules around structure, as it consists of simply stating words that relate directly to the idea being conveyed (as opposed to normal grammar, which focuses on linking together many words to form a single coherent idea). |
;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ;EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
:This is the strangest of the two. It might be referencing a scream as a form of communication (albeit an unreliable one). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH') | :This is the strangest of the two. It might be referencing a scream as a form of communication (albeit an unreliable one). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH') | ||
| − | The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to {{w|communication}} and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. This may reference {{w|nonverbal communication}} (which is communication without oral means), but this is a subset of communication. Either Miss Lenhart has transferred into another mode of transmitting information to self-demonstrate (that may be impossible to render textually) or lack thereof, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there no other ways to convey information without communication. Still, this doesn't rule out other possible alternatives to communication, as Lenhart implies that other methods exist. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method | + | The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to {{w|communication}} and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. This may reference {{w|nonverbal communication}} (which is communication without oral means), but this is a subset of communication. Either Miss Lenhart has transferred into another mode of transmitting information to self-demonstrate (that may be impossible to render textually) or lack thereof, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there no other ways to convey information without communication. Still, this doesn't rule out other possible alternatives to communication, as Lenhart implies that other methods exist. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method(s) that attempts, but fails to transmit information. Nonetheless, self-demonstrating lack of communication would not be useful in this setting without further explanation, as abruptly ceasing to provide more information could instil confusion in her students. |
==Transcript== | ==Transcript== | ||
| − | + | :[ [[Miss Lenhart]] is teaching in a classroom. Two students can be seen sitting at desks in front of her, [[Cueball]] in the first row and [[Megan]] in the second row.] | |
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| − | :[[[Miss Lenhart]] is teaching in a classroom. Two students can be seen sitting at desks in front of her, [[Cueball]] in the first row and [[Megan]] in the second row.] | ||
:Miss Lenhart: '''Grammar''' is one of the most popular ways to structure a language, ahead of rival methods such as '''''words order words random words words random good''''' and '''''EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'''''. | :Miss Lenhart: '''Grammar''' is one of the most popular ways to structure a language, ahead of rival methods such as '''''words order words random words words random good''''' and '''''EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'''''. | ||
Latest revision as of 10:56, 7 April 2026
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 Title text: Communication is one of the most popular ways to transmit information, ahead of rivals such as |
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Miss Lenhart is shown teaching a classroom about grammar, which is a system of rules describing how a certain language is structured. This is useful to make communication and meaning standardized and clear, with little to no difficulty in parsing. However, due to having many rules and structures to learn, the grammar of some languages can be viewed with annoyance by some people who wish it were 'simpler'. However, this comic shows how effective grammar is by comparing it with various other 'forms' of structure. Specifically, Miss Lenhart claims that grammar is "one of the most popular ways to structure a language". She also presents two alternative methods (though it could be interpreted as a list of four items without commas to split it up) that competed to substitute grammar, yet evidently never took off to be implemented for practical use. Despite seeming nonsensical, they've gained their own endonyms:
- Words order words random words words random good
- This alternate to grammar likely has very loose rules around structure, as it consists of simply stating words that relate directly to the idea being conveyed (as opposed to normal grammar, which focuses on linking together many words to form a single coherent idea).
- EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
- This is the strangest of the two. It might be referencing a scream as a form of communication (albeit an unreliable one). Alternatively, it could be made up of various random syllables, with others in the system too. (like 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' & 'OOOOOOOOOOOH')
The title text continues Lenhart's lecture, as she moves on to communication and its rival alternatives, similar to the subject of grammar, but seems to cut off before naming the first one. This may reference nonverbal communication (which is communication without oral means), but this is a subset of communication. Either Miss Lenhart has transferred into another mode of transmitting information to self-demonstrate (that may be impossible to render textually) or lack thereof, as the sudden stop in the middle of the sentence could be a joke for how there no other ways to convey information without communication. Still, this doesn't rule out other possible alternatives to communication, as Lenhart implies that other methods exist. If communication is defined as successful transmission of information, it is possible she is referring to some sort of method(s) that attempts, but fails to transmit information. Nonetheless, self-demonstrating lack of communication would not be useful in this setting without further explanation, as abruptly ceasing to provide more information could instil confusion in her students.
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- [ Miss Lenhart is teaching in a classroom. Two students can be seen sitting at desks in front of her, Cueball in the first row and Megan in the second row.]
- Miss Lenhart: Grammar is one of the most popular ways to structure a language, ahead of rival methods such as words order words random words words random good and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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E3EeE E3eE!! Logalex8369 (talk) 22:26, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
I created a transcript, but used OCR for all the E's because I kept losing count of how many there were. If someone wants to factcheck that, please do. 104.28.215.220 22:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Factchecked 19 E's counted in the image and 19 E's counted in the transcript. 12.155.149.34 23:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
It looks like the bot picked up the April Fool's "feature" as interactive, should we keep it or remove? 104.28.215.220 22:46, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
Side note: I have heard people using both alternate niche methods of language structure, kinda like those people who adopt a losing format even after it's clear it has lost. On character who has on occasion dabbled in both is Homer Simpson, BTW. --94.73.49.13
- I still say that Video2000 was the superior home VCR format, in every way...81.179.199.253 23:55, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
Any "competitors" to grammar would still be grammars since a grammar, by definition, describes how a language is structured. 75.248.235.98 00:00, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Well, the Random Words one seems to have no particular structure beyond being word-utterances, and the EEEEEEEEEEEEEE one doesn't even have much that can be structuralised (though I'm half expecting it to actually supposed to be a modem 'yowl', it needn't even be that), so I'm willing to bet that this exempts them from any consistent quality of being grammar. 81.179.199.253 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- The second example used the term word-s which in itself is a structure with grammar. And the last example might well have grammar, if eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is a single morpheme, we siply wouldn't be able to recognize the grammar. 195.65.24.115
I interpreted "words order words random words words random good" differently. I assumed it was missing commas and should be read as "words-order", "words-random" "words-words" "random-good". Maybe(probably?) not what Randall intended, but if anyone interpreted it the same as me, you're not alone! 69.204.108.174 (talk) 00:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
i reconsider this: non-verbal communication isn't another rival for communication, as it is a subset (after seeing and liking this anon's edit), but i'm not sure what other methods there could be than just communication and non-communication; Lenhart says "rivals" plural -- somefan (talk | contribs) 00:45, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Pretty sure the joke is that any alternative to communication would by definition be impossible to communicate. --Biotronic (talk) 08:18, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you 137.25.230.78 00:54, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- steal orange me steal eat orange me eat orange steal me eat orange steal me you King Pando (talk) 02:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
orange orange orange orange orange orange orange orange orange yellow
orange you glad I didn't say orange? 98.22.184.160 11:27, 7 April 2026 (UTC) Add comment
