1753: Thumb War
| Thumb War |
 Title text: "Seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty--" / "Can't we just read Pat the Bunny?" |
Explanation
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A thumb war is a common game for children, in which two players hold hands and attempt to pin each other's thumb down. The game is often started with both players chanting "one, two three, four, I declare a thumb war, five, six, seven, eight, try to keep your thumb straight", referencing the goal of the game. Black Hat chants a modified version, though, clearly making poor Hairy uncomfortable. His version becomes a political commentary about proliferation of weapons and the United Nations (U.N.) reluctance to intervene. A finger gun is made by holding one's thumb and finger in the shape of a gun, fitting with the anolog of a thumb war. Black Hat continues to make Hairy uncomfortable as an adult, such as in "I'm so random". In the title text, Hairy adds another verse, requesting to do something more appropriate for children, reading a picture book.
Transcript
[A young Hairy and a Black Hat are sitting across to each other]
- Black hat: One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.
- Black hat: Five, six, seven, eight, finger guns proliferate.
- Black hat: Nine, ten, eleven, twelve, digits can't protect themselves.
- Black hat: Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, thumb U.N. won't intervene.
- Hairy: I don't want to play with you anymore.
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I love this new perspective of the comic. Seeing the characters as kids is an interesting concept, especially when one of them is Black Hat. Hopefully more of these kind of comics will come to exist. I wonder what kind of "classhole" tendencies Black Hat had as a kid... --JayRulesXKCD (talk) 14:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- We also get to see Black Hat as a child in 1139: Rubber and Glue --172.68.78.124 15:00, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Well, yes, but I wonder... will Randall do anything else with this? --JayRulesXKCD (talk) 11:21, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Is this really Hairy in the comic or just a young Cueball, just with hair? Note that also Black Hat has visible hair under his hat in this comic, whereas the adult version doesn't have hair (or at least none visible). 162.158.202.141 14:48, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- This is Hairy as Hairy is not a single character, but just the name used to identify a stick figure with hair and to distinguish them from a Cueball (a stick figure without hair). The characters with hats are pretty much the only ones assumed to be non-generic recurring characters. Also, Black Hat does have hair, as seen in comic 377: Journal 2 --172.68.78.124 15:03, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- It can be discussed again and again if children represents the adults. The current explanation makes it clear that these are children that probably grow up to be the two characters. In principle I would say they are not those two, just as any child drawn like Cueball or Megan are not those. And for that same reason it could be argued that this is not Hairy. But if the other is Black Hat as a child then why not Hairy. Both are also in the 1139: Rubber and Glue mentioned above. (Actually all four mentioned here are in that as children). For the sake of this explanation it makes sense to use the names). --Kynde (talk) 12:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- A good way to get around generic and recurring, diferentiated characters is to follow Black Hat Guy. Since he's one of the two most consistent recurring charaters of them all since 72: Classhole (his literal establishing character moment), you can get the personalities, behavioural traits and relationships of the recurring Cueball, Megan, Hairy, Ponytail, etc. from looking at those that interact with him (you can do that with Beret Guy as well). It's not perfect, but you can establish your own canon regarding "the gang" and their adventures. 198.41.230.41 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- It can be discussed again and again if children represents the adults. The current explanation makes it clear that these are children that probably grow up to be the two characters. In principle I would say they are not those two, just as any child drawn like Cueball or Megan are not those. And for that same reason it could be argued that this is not Hairy. But if the other is Black Hat as a child then why not Hairy. Both are also in the 1139: Rubber and Glue mentioned above. (Actually all four mentioned here are in that as children). For the sake of this explanation it makes sense to use the names). --Kynde (talk) 12:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
I didn't see Hairy's not wanting to play anymore as boredom but as either developing fear, or/and not wanting to play by weird rules he doesn't understand. Trivia; my school yard version didn't have a 5-6-7-8..., our thumb's shook "hands" and bowed to each other before the fight began. ~~Cris 108.162.245.57 15:42, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed (on both parts). The current description's "…and then counting up by fours and making rhymes" was utterly foreign to me, and I had to read it a few times to make sure it really was implying that it was standard to count above four. I've never heard of anything beyond "One, two, three, four; I declare a thumb war!" (accompanied by the thumbs touching alternating sides of the "ring"). Unless we can get anyone who can support the claim that counting above 4 (with or without rhymes) is normal or even uncommon, it should probably be expunged. 108.162.215.220 16:51, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- I always learned it with two verses, although the second one varied - "1, 2, 3, 4. I declare a Thumb War." and then either "5, 6, 7, 8. Try to keep your thumbs straight." or "5, 6, 7, 8. This'll be a piece of cake." The last word of the second verse was the cue for the fight to begin. --BoomerSooner162.158.74.42 17:31, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
"Twenty" is a pretty good rhyme for "bunny" if you pronounce it "twenny", which is common in North America. Also, our local variant of Thumb War also stopped at four. Jkshapiro (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I thought I was alone, though where I come from it's pronounced /ˈtwʌn(t)i/. (And I reveal the smallest bit more information about myself to the internets. Private eyes, gawk away.) --XndrK (talk) 02:48, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Plot twist: The character on the right is the one who grows up to be Black Hat. The one on the left is never seen as an adult, because Black Hat takes his hat, resulting in instant regression into emo stuff. Hppavilion1 (talk) 04:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- Well funny, but since it's Hairy on the left that is afraid of Black Hat this just doesn't make any sense ;-) --Kynde (talk) 12:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Did other local variants have the index finger "sneak attack"? Index finger sneak attacks were always in play for me... 108.162.238.47 21:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Is the addition of guessing what Black Hat would say after twenty and twenty-four really necessary? It's just guessing, and does not help explain the comic in any way. Boochin (talk) 04:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
