Talk:3006: Demons

Instead of an iron pitchfork, he probably uses a silver hammer! 172.71.26.54 16:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

🤓☝ moment Caliban (talk) 20:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Why are his hands backwards??? What did you do to him?! P?sych??otic?pot??at???o (talk) 21:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Note that while boiling souls in oil or casting them into flame pit is traditional, multiple authors already made the observation that it's not really that effective and that modern devils would likely go for psychological torture instead. -- Hkmaly (talk) 01:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

That's what I thought... it's a beautiful meta-comment that the comic makes this transition to modern torture coincide with the transition to modern physics, as it is embodied by Maxwell, who explained "large-scale effects" and "distant effects" microscopically resp. infinitesimally. Transgalactic (talk) 03:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

As discussed in Pratchett's Faust Eric, both damned and demons might actually prefer traditional physical punishment to a more tedious psychological regime. 172.70.162.36 03:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

The evolution of life (entropy-reversing agents) disproves the second law of thermodynamics, which is rooted in short-term statistics of large systems rather than systems where the duration of time greatly exceeds the number of particles. Maxwell’s Demon could be seen as a simplification of this —- that taking action to counter probability does indeed do so, and is indeed probable eventually. 172.68.3.96 14:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

New category: Infernal Strips

What do you think about a new Infernal category for strips with demons or in hell? There are quite a few. 501, 533... 172.70.47.10 17:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree. 42.book.addict (talk) 18:04, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I just tagged a half-dozen strips, but a site admin will have to create the category page itself. It turns out there was some overlap with a "Religion" category, whodathunkit. 172.70.46.243 19:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

They were tagged inconsistently (at least two different forms of the category). And as they were all redlinked I undid them all anyway.

The proper process is more like:

1. Say something like Hey, I think we need a "Category:<Foo>",
   • To justify it, identify a handful of comics (or all of them, if you're being thorough). Unless perhaps the comic is called "SOMETHING SOMETHING NUMBER 1" and it very much looks like it's going to be the start of a series, although still might be best to wait for "SOMETHING SOMETHING NUMBER 2".
2. Get comments (e.g. Yes, a good general idea, but it should probably be "Category:<Bar>" to be consistent/accurate/properly-inclusive/etc) and additions (Yeah, and comic in #1234 would fit too!)
3. When someone who can (e.g. 42, there) decides it's been successfully argued to an agreement (YMMV), they use the final list (and the agreed upon name) to create the category and at least start the process of adding the category memberships.

To be honest, though I agree about the relevence of the created Category:Rockets, as just done, I also think that one was done far too quickly. I'd at least wait a few days after the last "Good idea!", just in case someone who checks in regularly but not frequently (e.g. once a week) has any wise words to add. 162.158.74.49 22:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree it would be nice with a list of possible comics, and maybe a better title. Is it to do with demons of hell. Could religion be used, just added that here as the other demons are typical Christian like demons. --Kynde (talk) 10:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

New category: Classical Thought Experiments

While I'm at it, I'd also suggest a new category for Classical Thought Experiments, everything from Maxwell's Demon to Schroedinger's Cat to the Trolley Problem. Readers may be familiar with some, but not all of the classical references, and it would be nice to have them all accessible from the same page. 172.70.46.243 19:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I can see something like this being useful. Not entirely sure of the name, but maybe, and I'm not sure what a better one would be. (To start off the discussion, as described above.) 172.70.58.21 22:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

There's some other demons made famous by thought experiments. I wonder how Maxwell's Demon would get along with the Evil Demon that tricks people into thinking they're 17th century philosophers. And I'm sure Laplace's Demon already knows how they'd get along. DanielLC (talk) 23:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah bother, ninjaed. Laplaces Demon was the first that came to my mind after reading the strip. 172.71.160.115+