Talk:1843: Opening Crawl

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Rogue One has no opening crawl. 20:30, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

It is also a Star Wars story, i.e. not a part of the trilogy of trilogies... --Kynde (talk) 20:41, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I suspect I'm not only one who would prefer reading Heir to the Empire to watching The Force Awakens. -- Hkmaly (talk) 22:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, Splinter of the Mind's Eye also contains the first EU inconsistency, with it and a comic from that same year disagreeing about whether Luke can swim. Cool to see that referenced here. -- Tempystral (talk) 04:43, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Luke can only swim in tepid water. Hence the term, lukewarm. --Nialpxe, 2017. (Arguments welcome)
Bada-bum, tss Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:07, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I think with this one, people would notice straight away. An opening crawl that starts off with something about the universe, or the political situation, would work. But I think from that quote, the first line describes direct action, so the audience would be thinking something's wrong before they get into reading it. Need one that starts with setting the scene. Also, you'd need a huge amount of space if you want to film more than a couple of pages. - 10:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I honestly wouldn't notice. Reading the first part of 'Thrawn Trilogy' (book whose text is shown here) I reckon I would think it's a new, artistic, 'spin' on the traditional summary. I would proceed to get lost in the storyline until one woke person starts yelling 'It isn't real! They're just showing us the text from a book!'. The incident will be filmed by multiple people and get 100,000 upvotes on reddit. Themanhimself11 (talk) 11:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
They might be able to get away with the first line, although there would be some unrest. The moment the first quote shows up, though, is when most of the audience would be clued in. Of course, I wouldn't mind sitting down reading parts of a Star Wars book to a John Williams score. OldCorps (talk) 11:29, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I must say, I really like the TvTropes warning. Very useful. HisHighestMinion (talk) 10:30, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I doubt that the joke actually has anything to do with the old rumors about the Thrawn Trilogy being a source for VII-IX, the Thrawn Trilogy was more likely chosen both for it's longstanding popularity and it's stylistic similarities to the actual crawl texts.

The joke regarding Splinter in the Mind's Eye probably has less to do with differences in style and more to do with stuff like the Luke/Leia romance subplot in Splinter (obviously written before George Lucas decided to make them twins separated at birth) and similar inconsistencies which would confuse the daylights out of a modern fan.

Why is the text provided in the Trivia? It's already in the transcript (making this the first transcript I actually read). The only difference is the first paragraph and the last word. And I say the first paragraph should be in the transcript. It might be completely illegible, but it is unquestionably visible in the comic. As for the proposal presented in the comic, I'd say that the first spoken word would give it away. :) The first paragraph fits in well for an opening crawl, but that's it.

And what's with TVTropes? Never been there, but all I ever hear / read is complaints, people requesting not to link to it, forbidding links to it, and now, lately on here, speaking of an automatic warning. From the looks of it, said warning makes the link not work on my iPad - I just see a thin underline - and I'm kind of afraid to check on a computer now, LOL! - NiceGuy1 12:37, 31 May 2017 (UTC) I finally signed up! This comment is mine. NiceGuy1 (talk) 06:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

609: Tab Explosion - 14:30, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Ah, thank you. LOL! Then I'm surprised people feel so strongly about the phenomenon as to require and generate warnings, :) - NiceGuy1 03:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC) So's this! NiceGuy1 (talk) 06:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

If you're not careful, clicking on a TVTropes link can eat up the better part of your day after you go down the rabbit hole. It can be as addictive (or more!) as a [1]Wikiwalk! --mwburden (talk) 17:49, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. I've seen that getting-sucked-in phenomenon identified for YouTube and Wikipedia, and have experienced it myself, but it seems extreme to actually warn of it, to the point of making it a part of the wiki, LOL! On YouTube it tends to be about weird videos, coining the phrase "I'm on the weird side of YouTube again." :) - NiceGuy1 03:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC) And this too! NiceGuy1 (talk) 06:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I spy a COPYRIGHT VIOLATION! 19:51, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

When I first saw this I was tempted to ask "Huh? What? Where?". Then it clicked. LOL! NiceGuy1 (talk) 06:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

This sentence is incorrect; "The text in the opening scroll is actually from the beginning of Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn." Instead it should say, "The text in the opening scroll is actually from the beginning of the third volume of the Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn." This comic got the idea to re-re-read the trilogy again like a song you just can't get out of your head. I am almost finished with the first book and came back today to look at the comic again. I noticed that the text shown wasn't in the first book, so I went skimming the battles to find it and realized that it was from the start of the third book. - Kizarvexis Jun 30th, 2017

How would the music continue throughout the text, I wonder? 04:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

It'd sound like an operetic overture, I suppose, apparently introducing snatches of the main themes that would 'later' appear in full. The envelope them would be seemlessly arranged with (for example, though I don't see how this would work with his "practically the first thing you read" textual appearance) a few chords of the Imperial March whenever Vader is the subject of the text, then if it recited a riposte by Luke then his sound-theme would intervene.
One wonders if the other way of imagining this scroll-only film would be to get the soundtrack (music, only) of the 'real thing' (presupposing that there is one, scored and performed by John Williams et al, and the con-trick is being even more cruel to have had an actual film and yet still not show it, but this crawl-in-leiu) and write/edit the text you use as the crawl to key in with the existing sound cues... In fact, that sounds like a very doable thing that might not even be instantly detected by fans if presented correctly:
 During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, and space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.
 Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy.
 The Corellian corvette made its way onward through the expanse of space, seemingly piercing the starscape in serene majesty, belying the power that its cluster of engines provided desperately for the purposes of its flight. 
 For almost immediately behind it cames the vast and tapering bulk of the Star Destroyer, the spearhead of the Imperial forces, sending forth a barage of plasma fire as its city-worth of arms and armour was finally brought, by its own vast and powerful engines, to bear down upon its much smaller target.
 Within the corvette, the rush of armed personnel, to muster into assigned defensive locations spotted around the internal corridors of the hull, was punctuated by the sight of Princess Leia Organa, preparing herself and her droid attendants in relative calm, an eye within the storm.
...well, that's the transitional bit of text off the top of my head (my own composition following on from the true ending of that particular scrawl example). Could do with checking/re-editing for lengths/upping or downing or otherwise fedoing the floridity of the prose style, to taste, if it were to become the real (fake) thing... 10:18, 29 January 2023 (UTC)