User talk:Malgond

 

Hey, thanks for replying to my table project. I wanted to let you know that I replied to your comment: >[...] ... I think it shall be somehow reflected in the table. For example: one column for Message (a value always present), another for Item name (may be empty) and another for Effect (may be empty). Unfortunately, the spreadsheet does not contain the kind of visual representation (a dot, a star, a star with a dot inside, or none at all). Yeah I noticed that too, but tbh I don't think it's SO important that needs to be included in the table or even in the entire page. Also, it would be very time-consuming. > the Explanation column is currently a short description (of a planet) and some of its features, the way to get there, only sometimes containing an explanation of what the planet name refers to. These should be separate. I don't think they should be separate, because it would mean that the table would get even bigger and navigating it would be harder. You're welcome to add any information in the explanation section, as I'm not editing its contents. > explanation for the Message/Item of "11 squares packed into a larger square" shall have a reference to 2740:_Square_Packing and a short description of the mathematical problem involved. I totally agree, and as I said in the initial message (above the table), I plan on adding item-specific explanations next to the item "names". > I also think we may need separate tables for planets (with very general descriptions and directions), features on the planets, possibly one table per planet (containing architecture, vegetation, animals, people etc. - if worth noting or there's some pun or reference), items and messages to be collected by the player (maybe one per planet), and for words spoken by the people and messages written somewhere (again, only if they contain a pun or a reference). I'm sorry but the amount of effort I'm putting in this "simple" table is already IMMENSE. I hope you understand that this would probably require dozens of hours between exploration and formatting. I won't be doing that myself, that's for sure :)

By the way, do you know where to find the coordinates of each planet? Thanks, FaviFake (talk) 13:58, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Cosmetic suggestion

All those [[wikipedia:Page_link|Link text]] examples, in your rapidly expanding table 'sandboxing', would fit better (from an editing POV) with the {{w}}-template we try to use universally for wiki links. Such as {{w|Page link|Link text}}. (Noting also that the underline/space issue is largely irrelevent in both, under most circumstances, with pipe-delimiting. It's only [url://server/various_folders/whatever_filename.html Full URLs space-delimitered from any Link Text] where such things as underlines (& reserved-character escaping!) needs quite so much strict honouring at all.)
Not worth revising all of what you're building up, but if you're making future changes (or ever decide to copy and paste it elsewhere), you might want to try transitioning some/all. Then check the Preview, to make sure you haven't mixed up [external_page blah text], [[internalised page|blah text]] and {{w|Wiki Page Title#Optional section|blah text}} formats!
There's also similarly templated {{wiktionary}} and {{tvtropes}}, amongst others, should you need them. Used right, they make the page source that little nicer to review and keep correct, I find. YMMV. 172.70.91.152 10:20, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I've tried the {{w}}-template once, but it didn't seem to work (maybe I've made some trivial mistake), so I switched to another method. Will try again.

Quick way, if you have the Wiki page that you broadly want already open:

• Select and copy the main page header/title, e.g. "Leonhard Euler"
• Put it in the "x" position of "{{w|x}}" ('w' template, told to go to 'x'), to produce Leonhard Euler
• Optionally add second pipe-separator to add link text where "y" is in "{{w|x|y}}", to produce a link by other text
• Always a good idea to Preview the edit, and (if you think necessary) follow the nicely-looking/working-looking link (as a new tab/whatever, so you can then come back and Save Changes without fuss) to make sure. I occasionally make stupid errors. Like forgetting the vital "w|" part!

If you don't have the page already open, but are vaguely sure you have the right idea for a link:

• Do a "{{w|x}}" (or with "|y" text added) for your chosen "x", e.g. "Euler"
• Preview it, as above, and follow link as new tab.
• If you find that it's wrong (not found, entirely wrong thing), vague (sent to disambiguation page) or redirected ("Euler" redirects here. For other uses, see Euler (disambiguation)) then you can now find the exact right page, if you're not re-landed there already, and copy that page's title to paste in and rePreview/refollow unless you're happy that you made it good.
• In this case, it would be a case of "Euler"->"Leonhard Euler", and you can leave it (if you're happy it does what you need), but there's nothing lost by pasting in the end-point title, usually.
  • People tend to change jump-to-redirect links to jump-to-redirected ones, if they find one; could not have been redirect->redirected link when first authored, even.

If I want a subsection-anchor link, it takes a bit more thought. And there may be better ways of doing it, but I personally do this:

• Go to the page I want (straight off new tab, or via intermediate Preview)
• Look at the Contents section
• Click on the section/subsection I desire, e.g. under "Contributions to mathematics and physics" the "Physics, astronomy, and engineering" subsection
  • I almost certainly then could just copy the (sub)header concerned and add it as an #anchor to the "|x|" bit (and might even directly need to if there is no Table Of Contents, but section headers), but occasionally this isn't quite right, so instead..
• Copy the address-bar you get (in this case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler#Physics,_astronomy,_and_engineering is what I got)
• Put it into the "|x| bit.
• Strip it down to just the "title#subtitle" bit, e.g. "Leonhard_Euler#Physics,_astronomy,_and_engineering"
• Optionally (or at least it is if you already have a "|y" replacement text bit, otherwise it's advisable to do, or supply a 'copycat' "|y" that looks more right...) change the underlines to spaces, and possibly replace other 'websafe' encodings with their valid 'normal' characters
• You now have a link like Leonhard Euler#Physics, astronomy, and engineering, which may or may not be sufficiently demonstrable, or perhaps you'd prefer it with the link text changed...
  • Note that following either of those links give the revised 'websafe' URL of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler#Physics.2C_astronomy.2C_and_engineering with the ".2C"-websafing applied on top, another level of meta-encoding you can edit down, if you somehow have accumulated
• Obviously do a final test Preview and test New Tab if you're not both confident and in a rush (which is often when I make big errors that someone else has to correct!)

...But this is just my own way of keeping myself (usually) on the right road for an edit.

As long as I remember it's [] for a URL (with optional space+alt text), [[]] for a usually internal wikilink (with optional pipe+alt text) and {{}} to invoke a template 'shortcut' container, e.g. the "w" one with pipe+title[#etc] (and optional pipe+alt text).

Also, {{w|link}}s (like the [[longer:link]]s it shortcuts), and possibly some other like variations, behaves like the more long-hanx {{w|link|Links}}, by various forms of wikimedia-magyck. Makes no difference to the page output, how you do it, but if you like a certain style of readability in the edit-level page source then it might be something you'll be happy to adopt.

HTH, and obviously there are probably other opinions, but this is just my own personal boiling down of the options available! 172.70.90.101 15:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Terrible spam attack on your user page

Recently, there has been a whole lot of spam on your user page. Would you mind asking the moderator to semi-protect your page? 172.71.154.229 22:54, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

??? You can't be serious. (Look, Malgond, whatever you think. But I thought that virtually all that was posted there was by you (unlogged in), perhaps some others edited inspired by you, as IPs. If missed any "spamdals" in any way 'ruining' the page, it's because it got cleaned up fairly quickly. Which is how things tend to work round here.) 172.70.86.153 08:11, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

No, most edits were mine & some people helped. The confusion is my fault. I edit from at least two computers. I use an offline solution for managing my passwords & I keep forgetting to update xkcd password in the other place, hence IP edits. -- Malgond (talk) 06:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

They're still spamming. 172.71.154.71 22:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Come on, it's me editing my page and draft pages, just not logged in. I have explained the reason above. -- Malgond (talk) 22:59, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Escape speed

Hi Malgond. Have replied both on Escape Speed's talk page and on my page. I like your work! Maybe put it here to begin with: 2765: Escape Speed/Tables Maybe if complete the old tables can then either be deleted or also moved there as an alternative. --Kynde (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC)