36: Scientists

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Scientists

Title text: A leading expert characterized the situation as 'retarded'

Explanation

This comic plays on the type of statement that news reports often use: "In what [group of experts] are calling '[quote]'," to add more weight and credibility to their stories. In this case, Cueball is using the phrase to attempt to add gravitas to the (relatively mundane) fact that his shoes are missing, and he thinks it's "pretty gay" by assigning this opinion to scientists (rather than it being, presumably, his friend's or his own opinion). The same joke is at play in the image text where a leading expert thinks the situation is "retarded."

The phrases "pretty gay" and "retarded" are infantile and offensive slang for "foolish" or "contemptible", and so they are the opposite type of speech expected of experts on news reports. These terms were not generally considered more than mildly offensive by most of the public at the time this comic was posted. The cultural mainstream is now typically much more critical of this type of language, and this comic would likely be heavily criticized if it were published today.

There may be a second level to the joke: Randall was still working for NASA at the time the comic was posted, so his friends at that time would presumably include scientists and "leading experts". If his friends made fun of him for not being able to find his shoes, it would therefore be accurate to say that scientists had made those statements. However, since them being scientists is irrelevant to the legitimacy of their opinions about Randall's shoe problems, presenting their teasing as an expert opinion is humorously misleading; a similar joke is at play in 1206: Einstein.

Transcript

[Cueball is staring at an empty box on the floor.]

Cueball: In what scientists are calling "pretty gay", I can't find my shoes.

Trivia

This explanation is incomplete: Need to mention the official date without discarding the previous guesswork (quote Randall's email thread and explain the situation.) First contribute to the relevant section on the main LiveJournal page. Only when that section is complete, update the trivia below. Learn more at User:FaviFake. If you can fix this issue, edit the page!

This comic was initially published as a duplicate of comic 10: Pi Equals.

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Discussion

If Cueball's a scientist, the statement is perfectly valid. Even more so if his scientist friends are helping him, and they can't find his shoes either. Davidy²²(talk) 07:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I found the fact that the last sentence was present in the explanation funnier than the comic itself. -- 131.175.28.142 22:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Its worth pointing out the comic was drawn in 2006 -- 'pretty gay' was not nearly as politically incorrect then as it is now. Wow, this is an old comic. 162.158.255.125 14:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Political incorrectness is a good thing. I'd hope he'd do this one again today. — Kazvorpal (talk) 01:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Political incorrectness is a good thing? wow. While I also find overly political correctness in many cases over the top, unneccesary and annoying, this is a clear example where political correctness helps to battle discrimination. By using the term "gay" to describe one stereotype associated with homosexuality, this stereotype is further enforced, and people are treated according to it. I do not know a lot about you, but your username sounds like an adjective, so imagine, I started a trend describing people who are e.g. pedophile as "kazvorpal", and this trend catches on. Soon you would find yourself excluded from events, jobs, etc. because people would assume you are a pedophile. Wouldn't you prefer that to not happen? that is one example why political correctness is a good thing. Sorry for the trollfeeding. --Lupo (talk) 06:04, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

No, you are suffering from the ravages of inductive reasoning. Political correctness includes a pretense that the speaker is battling discrimination, but it's just virtue signalling. They are, in fact, encouraging discrimination, and heaping advocacy of censorship and repression on top of it. Using "gay" as a mock pejorative does nothing to harm actual homosexuals, and in fact robs the term of its emotional power, as humor often does. Daniel Tosh incessantly making faux-bigoted comments uses humor to weaken racism, sexism, et cetera. And the end does not justify the means: Repressing the expression of others is evil, even when you're trying to use doing so to impress others about how virtuous you are. — Kazvorpal (talk) 15:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

That opinion is what scientists call "pretty straight white man". --141.101.99.163 22:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Ad hominem -- 108.162.237.191 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Ad heteronym. Seriously though, stop being so straight --162.158.134.63 21:12, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

as someone who scientists are calling "pretty gay" (bisexual) and "retarded" (autistic), I find this comic humorous. -- Arthur101 (talk) 00:33, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

- also gay and autistic here. I agree this comic is funny, but that doesn't make it at all okay to use gay as an insult, or to use the r-slur at all, and I hope that basic level of "political correctness" becomes more common and respected (user: human physics padawan) 172.70.46.136 (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

- I agree. Arthur101 (talk) 03:51, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Interesting edit I just felt I had to make, in response to another. The sentence:

However, since their being scientists is irrelevant to the legitimacy of their opinions about Randall's shoe problems, presenting their teasing as an expert opinion is humorously misleading; a similar joke is at play in 1206: Einstein.

...a change of "their being" was changed to "there being", assuming a homophonic error.
However, technically (at least idiomatically) all three "their/there/they're" could be correct.

• "their being scientists" - 'the state of being scientists that they possess' works well as a concept,
• "there being scientists" - 'that scientists exist in that situation' also does, somewhat
• "they're being scientists" - 'it is scientists that they be' works well ('that they are' in alternate grammatical dialect, but off the 'being' form in both cases, rather than the secondary contracted 'are')

Anyway, I changed it onwards to "them being", i.e. 'those people (...that we can describe as scientists)'. In leiu of totally rewording to remove this (rather interesting) issue of grammar. 172.70.85.147 11:33, 26 November 2023 (UTC) In what scientists are calling ‘pretty gay’ (asexual), me. 172.68.58.140 14:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey everyone! I tried contacting Randall to ask him when he replaced comic 36: Scientists, and he replied! You can read the conversation and a summary of what happened on my user page. Among other things, he gave me the official release date, April 28th, and, after I asked, he told me he might reply to more simple questions! If you all have some technical or administrative questions, I can ask them directly to him! There are many more details about this here. --FaviFake (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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