1555: Exoplanet Names 2

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Exoplanet Names 2
I'm going to drive this Netherlands joke so far into the ground they'll have to build levees around it to keep the sea out.
Title text: I'm going to drive this Netherlands joke so far into the ground they'll have to build levees around it to keep the sea out.

Explanation

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This comic is a continuation of 1253: Exoplanet Names, and was published the day after NASA announced the discovery of a number of planets, including an Earth-like planet, Kepler-452b. Black Hat proposes naming it Pluto, to commemorate the flyby of the dwarf planet of that name by NASA's New Horizons earlier the same month. He admits an alternative reason for the name, which is to add confusion to the debate about the status of Pluto (whether it should be considered a planet, a dwarf planet, or something else); by naming Kepler-452b (indisputably a planet) "Pluto", this means that the answer to the question "is Pluto a planet?" will always be "yes" regardless of the status of the Pluto in our Solar System, which is not a helpful answer.

The International Astronomical Union (IAU) is the organisation which is responsible for naming celestial bodies (planets, stars, etc).`

This table explains each entry in the comic table. The "New" column indicates if an entry is an addition since 1253: Exoplanet Names. A "U" indicates the entry was updated.

Star Planet New Suggested Name Explanation
Gliese 667 b N Space Planet A very unimaginative name; every planet is in space.
c N PILF Pun of MILF, i.e. Planet I'd Like to Fuck. Planet c is a relatively hot planet, within the habitable zone.
d N A Star "A Star" is obviously a bad name for a planet. A* (pronounced "A star") is already used in in astronomy, for example the Milky Way's black hole core is Sagittarius A*. "A star" is also the name for the character asterisk and the name of the popular A* search algorithm in computer science.
e N e'); DROP TABLE PLANETS;-- Mrs. Roberts is probably trying to use SQL injection like in Exploits of a Mom, in which her son Robert'); DROP TABLE students;-- caused the school a lot of trouble when his name was put in. The idea here is that the IAU would enter the name into their system and promptly lose all of their data pertaining to planets. Note that Planet e is located in the habitable zone of the star system.
f N Blogosphere Weird blog-related terms are a recurring theme in xkcd. See, for instance, comic 181.
g N Blogodrome
h N Earth Planet candidate h is about the mass of the Earth, and described as "tantalizing": A dynamically-packed planetary system around GJ with three super-Earths in its habitable zone. See also (1231: Habitable Zone). Like several other names below, naming a second planet Earth would be highly confusing.
Tau Ceti b N Sid Meier's Tau Ceti B This refers to the game Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
c N Giant Dog Planet VY Canis Majoris is one of the largest known stars at our galaxy and belongs to the constellation Canis Major, Latin for "greater dog". The constellation further contains Sirius, the brightest star in the night sky, also called "Dog Star".
d N Tiny Dog Planet cf. Canis Minor, Latin for "lesser dog", another constellation.
e N Phil Plainet A reference to Phil Plait, a.k.a. The Bad Astronomer.
f N Unicode Snowman The Unicode character may be a reference to the planet's estimated surface temperature of -40 °C (-40 °F). However, this name would be pronounced differently (being a symbol, not a word or name) in different languages. Planets in our solar system are assigned to astronomical symbols like for Earth or for Mars.
Gliese 832 b N Asshole Jupiter This massive planet orbits a red dwarf star at the longest known period of 3416 days at this category. Many exoplanets are described as "Hot Jupiters" because they are high-temperature gas giants; if one were to read "hot" as a description of attractiveness rather than temperature, one might generate names like this one.
c Y Waterworld starring Kevin Kostner Waterworld (imdb) is a 1995 film starring Kevin Costner about Earth almost completely covered in water. It is unclear whether the surname being spelt incorrectly with a 'K' is intentional.
Gliese 581 b N Waist-deep Cats Waist Deep is an action film from 2006, and the Lolcat meme does not need explaining. The name may also simply be a reference to being "waist-deep" in (i.e. surrounded by many) cats.
c N Planet #14 About 200th discovered exoplanet (in 2007); reported to be the first potentially Earth-like planet in the habitable zone of its star, though that is in doubt now. The joke might be that like "Space Planet", "Planet #14" is a generic and unoriginal name. Also note that this is the 15th entry in the table so the numbering is zero-based.

An interesting (?) coincidence is that the 14th and 15th Minor planets (then called asteroids) were discovered in 1851; see see List of minor planets: 1–1000. If they were to be counted among the planets of the Solar System, as was sometimes done then, the 14th known planetary body would be Iris (discovered in 1847, a year before Neptune).

d N Ballderaan A crude pun on the planet Alderaan from the Star Wars universe.
e N Eternia Prime Eternia is a fictional planet, venue of the Masters of the Universe animated series and toy collection.
f N Taupe Mars Kim Stanley Robinson's award-winning Mars trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars after various stages of terraformation). Taupe is a brownish-grey colour.
g N Jelly-Filled Planet Possibly a reference to the conjecture that this tidally locked planet has an isolated habitable zone under the substellar point, akin to the pocket of jelly in a jelly doughnut.
Epsilon Eridani b N Skydot SkyDOT is the Sky Database for Objects in Time-Domain run by LANL for the U.S. Dept. of Energy and includes data for Epsilon Eridani that can be used to constrain the orbital parameters of ε Eri b. It may also refer to how objects in space may appear as bland, bright dots in the night sky.
c N Laser Noises A Laser does not produce noise in the signal sense; it only works at a well defined frequency. In science fiction films, however, laser weapon discharges are usually accompanied by sound. Sun-like Epsilon Eridani became a popular setting for science fiction after its publicity as a target of the Project Ozma experiment.
Gliese 176 b N Pandora The mythological name Pandora fulfills most of IAU's guidelines and has been popular for planets in science fiction; most recently and famously is the venue of James Cameron's Avatar (although actually it is not a planet but just a moon of a gas giant in Alfa Centauri A). It is also a hellish planet from Frank Herbert's WorShip series of novels, a jungle planet in Brothers Strugatsky's Noon Universe and the planet used in Borderlands Games.
c N Pantera Named for the heavy metal band - which was named after an Italian sports car, the De Tomaso Pantera.
Kepler-61 b N GoldenPalace.com A gambling website, known for paying to have their name in unusual places (like forehead tattoos, species names...).
Groombridge 34A b Y Hot Mess This is a reference to the phrase Hot mess from the popular television show Arrested Development.
Kepler-442 b Y Seas of Toothpaste
Gliese-442 b Y This one weird planet Most likely a reference to clickbait articles found on the internet.
EPIC-201367065 b Y Sulawesi An island in the Indonesian archiepleago.
c Y Huge Soccer Ball
d Y Geodude [Geodude] is a pokemon characterised by its ball-like shape. It resembles a clump of rocks.
Kepler-296 b Y Kerbal Space Planet Kerbal Space Program is a game where model rockets are launched on a scale version of the Earth. It has been referenced in xkcd a number of times (1106, 1244, 1356). Note, though, that the actual planet corresponding to the Earth in the game is called "Kerbin".
c Y A$aplanet Most probably a pun on the rap group A$AP Mob and their most prominient member A$AP Rocky. May also be a pun on Kesha, also written as Ke$ha. In that case the c of the planet's designation would belong to the name.
d Y Jurassic World Jurassic world is the most recent movie in the Jurassic park siries
e Y This Land Reference to Wash's dialogue in the pilot episode of Firefly_(TV_Series).
f Y Springfield The name of the town in which animated sitcom The Simpsons is set; possibly a reference to the running joke that the state in which Springfield is located has never been named.
HR 7722 b Y Betelgeuse Betelgeuse is a star in the constellation Orion. It is commonly pronounced as "beetlejuice". Beetlejuice, however is a film directed by Tim Burton from 1988. Similarly to Dune/Arrakis and the two Uranuses, naming two planets with names that are generally regarded to be identical would cause severe confusion in astronomical discussions.
c Y Beetlejuice
EPIC201912552 b Y Netherlands VI As the title text a reference to What if?'s 53, 54 and comic 1551: Pluto. Due to a drain in the Earth's ocean the Netherlands have not to worry about getting flooded, anymore and take the opportunity to conquer the world (including Antarctica becoming South Netherlands) in What if 53, Mars (New Netherlands) in What if 54, and a section of Pluto (again: New Netherlands) in comic 1551. This may also be a possible reference to 1519: Venus, but there seems to be no relation to the other conquests of the Netherlands. Maybe it should also be mentioned, that New Netherland was a Dutch colony with New York City, formally known as New Amsterdam, as its capital. So the name "New Netherlands" can be assumed as "historically correct", while "Netherlands VI" isn't.
Gliese 3293 b Y Antispit
c Y Google Earth Google Earth is a service, similar to Google Maps, which projects satellite data on a 3D globe that can be zoomed in on. Other features, such as models of buildings, can also appear.
d Y Planet of the Apes (Disambiguation) The way a Wikipedia article would be titled, for example, to distinguish from the the original novel, the first film, the Tim Burton remake and the reboot series. In each adaptation, a group of astronauts lands on what is believed to be a "Planet of the Apes", which turns out to be a post-apocalyptic Earth.
Kepler-283 b Y ˈjʊərənəs Two alternative pronunciations (written in International Phonetic Alphabet) for the planet name Uranus; the first one translates as "YU-ri-nus" ("urine-us"), while the second translates as "yu-RAIN-us" ("your anus"). The first pronunciation (being the same as how the Greek god is pronounced in English) is preferred by astronomers, but both are commonly heard.
c Y jʊˈreɪnəs
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Upsilon Andromedae b Y Fourthmeal Taco_Bell has an ad campaign adding a meal after dinner. Possibly also a reference to Hobbits and seven daily meals.
c N Stampy The name of the elephant from the Simpsons episode Bart Gets an Elephant.
d N Moonchild The name Bastian gives the Childlike Empress in The Neverending Story.
e N Ham Sphere HamSphere is a Ham Radio simulator program. Ham radio uses designated radio frequencies for non-commercial exchange of messages and more. A pun of Hemisphere.
HD 20794 b N Cosmic Sands A pun on the name of the font Comic Sans. (See also: 590: Papyrus.)
c N Legoland Legoland is a chain of theme parks owned by the Lego Group. Potentially a reference to the movie The World's End, in which the protagonist Gary King tells the alien invaders to "get in your rocket and fuck off back to Legoland".
d N Planet with Arms A reference to the early covers of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
HD 85512 b N Lax Morality Possibly a parody of science fiction in which certain planets are suggested to be uniformly... lax in morals (i.e. full of sex, drugs, etc.). See http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Planetville and related.
HD 40307 b N Good Planet Similar to the above, except with good planets. May also be yet another non-descriptive name, like "Space Planet" and "Planet #14".
c N ProblemLand See above.
d N Slickle This is a reference to "The Petals Fall Twice", which was made as a humorous example of bad fan-fiction. The word itself is a portmanteau of "slowly", "licked", and "tickled".
e N Spare Parts This suggests that the planet is "worthless" or "junk". This is false, of course. May be a reference to the fact it is a planet with nothing much different from the other planets.
f N New Jersey VI Refers to the state of New Jersey; may be an insult to either.
g N How Do I Join the IAU This implies that the user "got lost" on the IAU website and thought that the "planet name suggestion" input was for general queries.
Gliese 163 b N Neil Tyson's Mustache Neil deGrasse Tyson is a famous American astrophysicist and science communicator who does maintain a distinguished mustache.
c N [email protected] Similar to "How Do I Join the IAU", this implies that the user confused the "planet suggestion" text box for a new email they are trying to send
d N Hair-Covered Planet Refers to the well-known Hairy ball theorem of topology.
Pi Mensae b N Moon Holder Jupiter has more than 60 discovered moons, and still counting... A planet ten times more massive must also be a Moon Holder.
HD 189733 b N Permadeath A well-characterized "Hot Jupiter" at a temperature range of 973 ± 33 K to 1,212 ± 11 K. The name refers to the feature of Permanent death common in many RPGs and roguelikes.
Kepler-22 b N Blue Ivy Blue Ivy Carter is the daughter of musicians Beyoncé and Jay-Z.
KOI-2474 b Y Store-Brand Earth Store brand} is a line of products branded by a retailer. They have a reputation for being lower quality than other brands, and are often marketed similarly to other brands. This is implying that this is a cheaper version of Earth.
Kepler-438 b U Unicorn Thresher As far as we can tell, Kepler-438b is in the vicinity of the constellation Monoceros, aka the Unicorn. (This was labeled Kepler-437b in the previous chart)
KOI-2418 b N Spherical Discworld The Discworld is the fictional setting for British author Terry Pratchett's Discworld series of humorous fantasy novels; it consists of a large disc supported by four elephants themselves standing on top of a turtle flying through space.
Kepler-438 b Y Emergency Backup Earth This candidate planet has an Earth Similarity Index of 0.89, making it one of the most habitable Kepler object of interest. The name suggests that it could be used as a backup in case something happened to our current planet.
Kepler-3010 b N Feeeoooooooop Possibly the onomatopoeia for something getting sucked into a black hole.
Kepler-442 b N Liz ...Just a regular name (for a person, not a planet). Maybe a reference to the Magic School Bus.
82 Eridani b Y Horsemeat Surface
c Y The Moon This name would cause confusion with the Earth's moon, which in English is called The Moon. It is also a poor name choice as 82 Eridani c is not a moon, but a planet.
d Y Constant Saxophones
HD 102365 b Y Little Big Planet This refers to the videogame LittleBigPlanet.
Gliese 180 b Y Dune Both references to Frank Herbert's Dune book series. The planet Arrakis (informally referred to as 'Dune') is the central planet in the mythology, where the mind-enhancing substance 'spice' comes from. Use of spice enables, among others, supercomputing-like mental computation as well as hyperspace navigation. Having two neighbouring planets with names that are historically used to refer to a single planet would sow further confusion in the already extensive catalog of planet names.
c Y Arrakis
Formalhaut b Y Swarm of Bees
Kepler-62 b Y Sporty A reference to 1554: Spice Girls, where Megan was unable to list the members of the pop group. In this case the names are correct.
c Y Baby
d Y Scary
e Y Ginger
f Y Posh
HD 69830 b Y Planet.xxx .xxx is a controversial top level domain (like to .com and .net) that is intended to distinguish porn sites from other types of website.
c Y Novella A novella is a form of prose with length between a short story and a novel. Common examples of novellas are romance literature centering around intense lustful encounters in cheap paperback books, though also 'serious' literature may be in novella form.
d Y Sexoplanet Like the other two planets orbiting this star, the "69" in the stars designation has lead to a sex joke: All planets in this comic are "exo-planets", planets not orbiting our sun. Adding a single "s" in front results in immature humor.
Gliese 682 b Y Verdant Hellscape A contradictory name. "Verdant" usually signifies to be lush with green plantlife, while "Hellscape" describes a desolate landscape destroyed by heat and cataclysm.
c Y Unsubscribe On YouTube, "subscribers" (people who get updates on a person's channel) are highly valued, and to "unsubscribe" from anyone is deemed to be offensive. "Unsubscribe" is also the command one sends to Electronic mailing lists to stop receiving said mailing list. In this sense it may imply a desire to no longer be bothered with these silly discussions around planet-names. Like "[email protected]" and "How do I join the IAU", "unsubscribe" is a frequently seen accidental message on the Internet in contexts where it is not going to work as a command.
Kepler-452 b Y Pluto This is the planet Black Hat is referring to at the top of the table.

Transcript

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[Black Hat is pointing slide with image of Kepler-452b planet]

Black Hat: NASA has announced the discovery of a (super-)Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone of a sun-like star.
Black Hat: I suggest we name this planet "Pluto", both to celebrate the great work by the New Horizons team, and to make the stupid "Is Pluto a planet" debate a little more confusing
[Table showing a list of planet names is shown.]
While we wait to hear from the IAU, here's a revised and updated list of planet name suggestions (see xkcd.com/1253) New or updated entries in red

Trivia

The IPA character for stress is a vertical line ˈ. Randall uses a slanted line similar to acute accent ´ or prime ′.


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Discussion

"This Land" is a Firefly reference. Keavon (talk) 05:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

This land is also track n6 of The Lion King, I think Randall is also a fan of this.--NeoRaist (talk) 14:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

What is with Kepler-283? 108.162.214.137 05:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

283b is the phonetic spelling for Uranus (your-a-nus) and 283c is the phonetic spelling for Uranus (your-ay-nus) 141.101.104.77 05:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
In table explanation, "'YU-ri-nus'...being the same as how the Greek god is pronounced in English" is misleading: Wikipedia's "Uranus (mythology)" page specifies both pronunciations as options. (And when we studied Greek mythology in high school we did in fact use jʊˈreɪnəs.)108.162.216.101 02:19, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Netherlands

.. I almost feel like that titletext gives enough reason for there to be (some) pages about the What If? series, but ehhhh... Pixali (talk|contribs) 05:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Thought about that and Randall's "promise" to use this joke more often: Do we need a "Netherlands" category for comics/articles? Having said that, maybe this was the very last reference to this joke, because of this promise... Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 12:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Kostner

Is there a pun I'm missing by spelling Kevin Costner as "Kostner"? 198.41.241.7

Randall fixed it. I don't know how to update the file here, though. P1h3r1e3d13 (talk) 20:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
I got it - the file's been updated, but I had to go all the way to the image and force a refresh on my browser for it to appear correctly. :P KieferSkunk (talk) 00:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Novella

I'm not 100% sure what "Novella" refers to, aside from the dictionary definition of the word (and if that's the case I'm unsure of the context), but in case it's not widely-known on this wiki, I want to suggest the possibility that it's a tribute to the Novella brothers, who are among the co-hosts of the popular science podcast The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. - 108.162.241.175 04:43, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Seems like a cool podcast, sadly I don't have time to listen to 10 years Witt of podcasts. Any specific ones I should listen to and where should I start for new ones? 173.245.55.63 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
The podcast is very topical, often talking about current news items. It is OK to start with new ones, and back-fill as desired. Blaisepascal (talk) 18:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Considering the sex-themed names Novella it is grouped with. I will assume it is a joke on 60/70's exploitation/B-movies, some of which had names or leadcharacters named something..-ella. In this case the prefix is just particularly confusing ;) 188.114.110.47 08:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
I assumed this was a reference to the SGU, perhaps because I was primed by the Phil Plait reference (who has been a guest on that podcast a few times), and because of their enthusiasm for space news. 141.101.99.57 20:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
It could also be interpreted in this context as the diminutive form of "nova," like a stellar nova. - 173.245.56.165 15:09, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
A$aplanet

Is a pun on the rap group A$AP Mob and their most prominient member A$AP Rocky.

Included that possibility. Thanks. Didn't know of A$AP, before. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Somehow I just read this as "a dollar a planet", maybe refering to a donating scheme ("a dollar donated for every planet found" or even more along the lines of "a dollar a day", meaning: donate 1 dollar to save this planet) or a sale advertisement ("just $1 to buy a planet", which is very likely to be a scam as it would not be possible with current technology to visit another planet outside of our solar system) 198.41.242.253 15:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Planet of the Apes (disambiguation)

I think the suggestion here is to actually put the "(disambiguation)" in the name of the planet, thereby creating a problem in the wikipedia entry, since there's already a wikipedia page with that title. They would have to create a meta-disambiguation page, which is why this is funny. 141.101.98.235 13:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

That's definitely the joke. But Wikipedia is actually already prepared to deal with this. When the Prince and the Revolution cover band "Prince (disambiguation)" tried to add a page for their band, editors pointed out that it should be listed as "Prince (disambiguation) (band)", with that "misnamed for technical reasons" template at the top explaining that the band's proper name is "Prince (disambiguation)", and possibly a disambiguation page at "Prince (disambiguation)" could point to it as well as to "Prince (musician)" and various other things. (But of course the band is completely non-notable, so the page was just deleted anyway). (I may be misremembering the details; it may have been a similarly-named cover band for a similar artist.) So, this would just be "Planet of the Apsa (disambiguation) (exoplanet)". 162.158.255.52 17:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Kepler-438b

In the previous comic, Kepler-438 was named Kepler-1686 (which does not seem to exist...) and was updated to the current Kepler-438b. It even is colored red to show the update. 162.158.23.198 16:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hot Mess

Why is Hot Mess an Arrested Development thing? The phrase is in general use, not just limited to viewers of that show. 108.162.237.189 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Air Bud Pluto #9 Reference

A few strips back, in Rulebook, we were debating whether the "9" on the dog's jersey may have been a subtle jab at the Pluto debate. I argued that there was a strong possibility of that, given the timing of that comic immediately after the New Horizons flyby, the strong relationship between dogs and the name Pluto, and Pluto's former status as the 9th planet. There was no way to prove that that was what Randall had in mind (short of him personally confirming it), but I think this strip could lend some credence to it. What do you think? KieferSkunk (talk) 17:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

What I think: #1 I don't think just the mention of Pluto is enough to support the relationship between Air Bud and Pluto; #2 read my commentary on 1552: Rulebook. GuiRitter (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Definition of Planet

What about the fact that the new definition of planet made by the IAU says it has to be around the sun. None of these would fit the definition of planet then and the answer to "is Pluto a planet" would still be no.Agent0013

Here's a link to the IAU resolution which defines a planet (and confirms Agent0013's comment): IAU 2006 General Assembly Results. 173.245.50.150 19:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
<Here used to be nonsense, sorry> Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Planet with Arms

(I just added this to the 1253 talk. Adding it here too.) I think Planet With Arms refers to both Hitchhiker's and to Galileo describing Saturn as a 'planet with ears' when he discovered. it. --173.245.54.26 13:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

A few more possibilities for you:

  • "Skydot" - a reference to Carl Sagan's famous "Pale Blue Dot" of Earth.
  • "Seas of Toothpaste" - possibly referencing the Beatles' "Yellow Submarine" with its various peculiar "Seas" (e.g., "Sea of Phrenology", "Sea of Holes")
  • "Moonchild" is a generic hippy name, and also the title of a 1917 novel by Aleister Crowley and songs by King Crimson and Iron Maiden. The King Crimson song, perhaps importantly, is the fourth song (i.e., "song d") on their debut album.
  • "Planet With Arms" also follows on directly after "LEGoland" as a pun, as well as referencing Galileo's description of Saturn as a planet with ears.

Grutness (talk) 01:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


Planet with arms could also probably be a reference to the 'birds with arms' meme. 108.162.249.169 09:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


It's probably not intentional, but Spherical Discworld reminded me of an aspect of the Pratchett novel, Strata (pre-Discworld-series, i.e. very early work, and arguably a bit rough around the edges, but you still might want to peruse it some time). Although I'm not wanting to go into any more detail lest I spoiler the very interesting thing that I'm talking about. 141.101.98.168 21:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I am vaguely disappointed that none of the Eridani planets got named "Planet of the Fish Assholes"... -Pennpenn 108.162.250.162 23:46, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Can we talk about how this comic is the fourth time the island Sulawesi was mentioned without any reason? Sulawesi appeared in comic 273 as part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and physically in both Online Communities maps I and II? 108.162.225.133 09:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I vote for a Sulawesi category. GuiRitter (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Was unicodesnowmanforyou.com made before or after this comic came out? 173.245.54.51 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)